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coz you're a jerk...no no... a typical male
that american is clearly a female
and they want to complain, they want to be listened to... THEY DONT WANT A SOLUTION....

hahahah

Haha great call.

Mind you it's the same tactic that's gotten nearly every (or is it every) team that I've seen promote to the ABBL, since entering this league.

Not every. I would have to check a bit more carefully but I don't think I really did it. Season 17 when I won my core at the start of the season was:

Guards: Mu, Oliver, Vallo, Barton and Kent.
SF: Rober
PF: big hole a collection of bad Cs playing PF.
C: Sherwin.

The only big change for the whole season was I sold Kent (didn't need 5 good guards) and bought Juan Carlos Gamboa so I finally had a PF. I admit it was late in the season and he only played three regular season games.

Season 18 I tanked the season so sold off Juan Carlos Gamboa, Rober, Mu and most of my team so that I was down to the salary floor. Late that tanking season I made the two next big additions picking up Sperbert and Lawrance.

Season 19 I won division II again. At the start of that season my core was:

Guards: Oliver, Vallo, Barton, Kumar and Hołówka.
SF: Sperbert
PF: Lawrance
C: Sherwin

During the season I made two changes, I basically traded Hołówka ($50k SG) for Lluís Cardil ($60k SG who had better matched skills to my teams needs and strategies). Then I admit right at the end I did rent Ander Oriol a $90k C (cost me $300k to buy) for the playoffs just to give me some depth, so that an injury to a key wouldn't see me spending another season in division II. At the time his quote was something like that he was insurance. I was 20/21 at the time and felt that unless I had an injury I should win but I just wanted that extra buffer so I could survive an injury.

So I respectfully claim not every.

Season 18 I tanked the season so sold off Juan Carlos Gamboa, Rober, Mu and most of my team so that I was down to the salary floor. Late that tanking season I made the two next big additions picking up Sperbert and Lawrance.

So you did tank!

I think its very hard to compete without a round of tanking first to build up the funds needed. Even in div 3 that was the approach I needed to take. Tank 1 season, build up funds, then go balls to the wall next season. To win div 3, I needed to have a roster that was much more expensive then what my team could sustain long term, and that strategy needed a pile of money to fund it.

Until BB fix the issue with tanking rosters, this will remain the most efficient way of putting together a winning season. The only other approach I can see is building an incredibly balanced team with great synergy and good value for money.

I certainly did tank!

I was scared I would repeat my season 12 fiasco. I started in season 10 in IV.7, went undefeated and was promoted to III.6. I won III.6 in season 11 and went to II.2. It is a long story but I tried hard to stay up and failed, so was sent down to division III.11 having made no money and not trained properly the whole season.

I am not aware of anyone ever who has gone 4, 3, 2 in their first three seasons and never been relegated.

I was silly, I should have seen the writing on the wall in season 12 and tanked the season. There wasn't even a salary floor back then. I could have done the difficult training and been much better off for it.

Lesson learned.

So in season 18 I found myself with the youngest ABBL team ever (since me Slam ! and the Melbourne Goldfish have been younger) an aging roster, no real stars, very little money (promoted with a large debt) and a very poor situation with the Kynlala Knights in the Big 8 planning to tank meaning the 6th and 7th Big 8 teams could take it easy all season and then just buy up to slaughter the Great 8 teams in the relegation games. I was determined not to repeat my failure of season 12 so made my plan. Tank season 18. Buy young, outstanding but cost effective players. Win division II in season 19 and then be able to compete not just survive when I returned to the ABBL in season 20.

I have made a few really stupid mistakes along the way but overall the plan is looking good.

coz you're a jerk...no no... a typical male
that american is clearly a female
and they want to complain, they want to be listened to... THEY DONT WANT A SOLUTION....

hahahah

LOL ranga you are a brutal human

I have never ever outright tanked in all my seasons of BB. I actually felt like I was half tanking this season after selling several of my players to kick things off... Funny how things play out.

Yoda I did state "nearly" and I did have you in mind at the time I posted. I couldn't remember for sure if you'd done any blatant late season buy ins to buy the title. That being said, I think your's is the only one that I can remember, since being in this league. Bravo sir!

Want to hear something else I think is interesting.

Top 6 ABBL records right now.

1 Whitebeard
2 Lewisham Wombats
3 Chelsea Seagulls
4 Aussie Pride
5 Billy Hoyles Boys
6 CROCKERS

Notice anything?

I'll add in the divisioin IIs these teams have won.

1 Whitebeard II.3
2 Lewisham Wombats always ABBL
3 Chelsea Seagulls II.3 and II.4
4 Aussie Pride II.3
5 Billy Hoyles Boys II.3
6 CROCKERS II.3

Totally incredible right? there are four division IIs yet all of the top six teams that come from a division II have come from the same division II.

Last edited by yodabig at 8/3/2012 1:38:50 AM

Nice spot, I like the odds to succeed in the ABBL after promoting for this league!

geez someone in the suggestions forum gave me a bit of a grilling! LOL

he really didnt like me not approving his suggestion!
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What a fucking knob. His suggestion was stupid anyway.

well i can kinda understand where he was coming from, i just offered an existing game solution.

i think he is just one of those people who is easily offended when their idea is applauded loudly or when someone disagree's with it.

poor diddums. ill try and pacify him with internet sarcasm and meme links.