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From: Mr AD

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203921.313 in reply to 203921.1
Date: 9/1/2012 1:17:21 PM
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i can't upload my training entries anymore. it says 'Training upload FAILED.' and something like, too many connections and not set to English (US). i know that i set my language to English (US), checked it many times. i tried it also on firefox, same pop up. what should i do? i really like the site you created and uses it a lot and its very helpful.

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203921.314 in reply to 203921.313
Date: 9/1/2012 1:47:28 PM
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i am getting same error every time but when i checked history page of the site, i see that info has uploaded. should i trust this error warning or the history page?

From: 7ton

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203921.316 in reply to 203921.315
Date: 9/7/2012 9:46:06 PM
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In my experience it took 3 times as much training time to get a pop once the soft cap is reached. Discarding the 14 and 20 min you have got less than 9 weeks, and some of them at forward position. You have to ask yourself do you honestly expect him to pop with only 3 weeks of training? I bet you won't.

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203921.319 in reply to 203921.318
Date: 9/11/2012 4:00:16 PM
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On a side note: I never heard of any hard cap.

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203921.320 in reply to 203921.319
Date: 9/11/2012 4:08:32 PM
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I did and I imagine it like this:

Say you have a Superstar (8) with sublevel 8.5. MVP is 9.

So soft cap is 8.5 and hardcap is 9. This means he will train really slowly from 8.5 to 9, but once he comes to 9 he will stop.

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203921.321 in reply to 203921.320
Date: 9/11/2012 4:09:18 PM
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And you got that information from...?

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203921.322 in reply to 203921.321
Date: 9/11/2012 4:21:12 PM
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Now that I think of, maybe this is not confirmed directly from BBs, but mainly from speculations and "urban legends", circulating on this forums. Maybe it's not true, but I believe it anyway because until it's proven otherwise, I don't know what else to believe.

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203921.323 in reply to 203921.322
Date: 9/11/2012 4:24:25 PM
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The urban legends I´ve been talking to think about the cap as a soft cap only - there´s a border, after which training slows down so massively, that it´s hardly worth spending training minutes on the player anymore. I know several player that have been trained over the "cap" which received like 12-13 weeks of full training till they got their next pop, but they got it nevertheless. I´m not sure why the system should use a "hard cap" when the soft cap mechanism (and the age factor) will sooner or later limit the players skills theoretically anyways.

Even if there is a hard cap, it would be pretty hard to find evidence outside a straight confirmation from the BBs, as the training effect becomes increasinly slow after reaching the soft cap. Maybe JosefKa with his data could provide some insight in this (and technically speaking the hard cap is just a special case of the soft cap with the training factor reaching 0).

Would be interesting to know if after reaching the soft cap there´s a "one-time hit" in speed (such as 1/10 of the age / size limitations) or if the development over the soft cap is still a function of potential reaching 0 at some point.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 9/11/2012 4:28:15 PM

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