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167724.32 in reply to 167724.31
Date: 1/1/2011 6:50:28 PM
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Indeed. And not all matches are league matches; in the POs or in the Cup I'd be angry at my coach for not trying everything to achieve the win.

Ultimately, I think while there might be ways to improve the endgame coaching, the simulation is quite close to the original, and even in real life, many endgame decisions are quite questionable. Of course, the 'wrong' decisions might often hurt; but that is the knowledge of hindsight - in the game, they make a lot of sense.

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167724.33 in reply to 167724.31
Date: 1/2/2011 11:54:13 AM
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What would be the difference if you stopped fouling intentionally if you are losing anyway?

Point difference for league standings

If my players continue to foul I get at least the chance to injure one of the opponents players, that would be a great satisfaction for me and make the loss less painful.

WHAT????

Sorry man,I don't understand your way to think the game.
Sometimes you might even get some miracle situations where you foul a player he misses both free throws you make a three, same on the next posession and the outcome of the game is still open - I think it does not hurt to commit some "useless" fouls, so why do we need to fix this?

If you read well my message,I just said the same thing;sistematic foul should be more flexible,if you go down by 7 or 8 your coach should stop sistematic foul unless you partially close the gap(-4,-5,-6) to make reasonable again this tactic

And it should work differently for single-elimination games(PO,Cup and B3) when your team however had to continue with sistematic foul because you don't have to care about point differential



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167724.34 in reply to 167724.33
Date: 1/2/2011 1:53:25 PM
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What would be the difference if you stopped fouling intentionally if you are losing anyway?

Point difference for league standings

If my players continue to foul I get at least the chance to injure one of the opponents players, that would be a great satisfaction for me and make the loss less painful.

WHAT????

Sorry man,I don't understand your way to think the game.
Sometimes you might even get some miracle situations where you foul a player he misses both free throws you make a three, same on the next posession and the outcome of the game is still open - I think it does not hurt to commit some "useless" fouls, so why do we need to fix this?

If you read well my message,I just said the same thing;sistematic foul should be more flexible,if you go down by 7 or 8 your coach should stop sistematic foul unless you partially close the gap(-4,-5,-6) to make reasonable again this tactic

And it should work differently for single-elimination games(PO,Cup and B3) when your team however had to continue with sistematic foul because you don't have to care about point differential



Whats wrong about being happy one of your opponents players gets injured? Everything that makes me stronger/opposition weaker is sthg to cheer.

Point differential seems to be a very weak argument, most leagues I know dont have close differentials and most teams differ from the next placed team in the 80-100 points range... Maybe thats a relevant point for a few teams in the whole game, I personally have never seen any situation where the point differential was crucial.

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167724.35 in reply to 167724.34
Date: 1/2/2011 3:05:00 PM
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Whats wrong about being happy one of your opponents players gets injured? Everything that makes me stronger/opposition weaker is sthg to cheer.


It is really funny everytime.

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167724.36 in reply to 167724.35
Date: 1/2/2011 3:54:04 PM
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and its really sad when ur own players gets injuried:( once got 3 players injuried in first 7mins:( i was crying irl ......

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167724.37 in reply to 167724.34
Date: 1/2/2011 4:13:49 PM
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Whats wrong about being happy one of your opponents players gets injured? Everything that makes me stronger/opposition weaker is sthg to cheer.


juscious answers to you
and its really sad when ur own players gets injuried


Are you happy when your players get injured when the other team make sistematic foul on your players?

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167724.38 in reply to 167724.36
Date: 1/2/2011 4:15:38 PM
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Yes, but at least you dont have to see how is the opponent enjoying your loss.

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167724.39 in reply to 167724.37
Date: 1/2/2011 6:46:37 PM
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Whats wrong about being happy one of your opponents players gets injured? Everything that makes me stronger/opposition weaker is sthg to cheer.


juscious answers to you
and its really sad when ur own players gets injuried


Are you happy when your players get injured when the other team make sistematic foul on your players?


I can live with that, as it is the same risk for everybody (who has a lineup almost equal to his opponent) - in this game we rarely see close games compared to the mass of blowouts +10-20 wins that occur every day due to the imbalanced rosters. I think this is a very marginal case to happen and I wonder why you are picking exactly this single (ironic) comment I made...

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167724.40 in reply to 167724.4
Date: 1/2/2011 10:20:56 PM
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This is irrelevant. There is no "coach" in your staff. There is only a trainer.

The "coach" is the AI built-in to the game engine that makes decisions you are not able to during the game. Please try to understand the post before making irrelevant responses.

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167724.41 in reply to 167724.6
Date: 1/2/2011 10:26:18 PM
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Sounds like I got sabotaged twice by my own coach.

You weren't sabotaged in the last game,AI coaching about fouls in the last minutes is generally not so good in BB,but this time your coach make the right decision

To go in the bonus in the final minutes if you are down in the score is a good idea,because then you can chose if defend or foul on the worst adversary FT shooter depending how develop the game...your adversary didn't go on the free throw line with last foul of the sequence,but when then sistematic foul starts because you were down by 5 after the 3-point-made by your adversary on 74-79

No. The three point shot you're referring to came after 4 straight fouls that put the opponent in the bonus. The very next foul, on the possession after the 3, sent him to the line. My point is prior to those 4 straight fouls, it was a 2 point game with over a minute left. There was no need to put him in the bonus. The 3 point shot he managed to squeeze out was inconsequential because it happened after what I'm saying was questionable coaching.

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167724.42 in reply to 167724.9
Date: 1/2/2011 10:28:51 PM
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I just lost my last playoff game on the road because my coach benched my starters when I was up by 8. Well they went on a 10-0 run to end the game and my coach didn't put my starters back in with 12 seconds left.

So again I don't want to hear your problems.


You can quite easily not hear my problems by not visiting the thread. Go cry about your loss on your own thread.

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