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235389.32 in reply to 235389.31
Date: 2/6/2013 4:35:20 AM
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Yeah working out the entire lineup and weekly rotation is the next step. I must admit this is going a bit beyond my reach since I only started playing halfway through last season, so I don't have enough experience to answer these questions properly.

However as far as I can tell, I think the 8 man rotation would consist of the starting 5 which we described, with the SF being a traditional guy. As bench players you'd need another hybrid guard and big, and then another traditional SF/wingman. So 6 hybrid players. I guess the extra cup players can be traditional as well, keeping a regular lineup for the cup?

I don't really understand what the blank lineup strategy is... Though I think that LI might be easiest to build for with hybrid players as the guards are the toughest, and if you don't need high JS and JR you can keep their costs down. They're hybrid anyway, so LI might suit them best too, plus I believe it's currently the most effective strategy.

About training and where the team is... I guess we'll need some time to prepare, the first few seasons in which we need to do the out of position training, but I guess that goes for traditional trainees too right?

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Date: 2/6/2013 6:19:34 AM
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I'm sorry if I misled you, I just wanted to share my ideas with the established players, on one side to bring some new insights for our common knowledge of the game, and on the other side because I just like out of the box thinking and solutions. I realize I'm not in a position to apply this strategy to the full extend, but I wanted to know wether it would be possible when I am ready. Also, it would be great if others can use the strategy succesfully; I don't need the succes myself, but the fact that others can use my ideas to be succesful is great for me too.

I might try this idea myself on a smaller scale, lower skill levels and just a PG and a C. If you like the idea yourself, feel free to try it out, you don't have to do it for me. I greatly appreciate your input and thank you for that. So I apologize if I wasn't upfront enough with you which caused you to spend time that you could have used otherwise.

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Date: 2/6/2013 7:49:22 AM
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Yeah I heard about it, maybe I can come up with a new idea around that dynamic. In any case, thank you for your input.

If others are in a favorable situation and want to try this idea, feel free to do so and let me know how it works out

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Date: 2/6/2013 10:29:31 AM
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Yeah I heard about it, maybe I can come up with a new idea around that dynamic. In any case, thank you for your input.

If others are in a favorable situation and want to try this idea, feel free to do so and let me know how it works out


The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.

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Date: 2/6/2013 1:28:46 PM
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The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.


I understand... so we're back to just running LI?

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Date: 2/6/2013 1:35:47 PM
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The other thing I'd point out is that the patient with a G at C can be effective with a team that primarily plays LI, but if you do it regularly competent managers will adjust their defensive tactics to shut it down - and it's one of those tactics that if it's anticipated it's simply not going to beat an opponent who is even close to your level.


I understand... so we're back to just running LI?


I think the point is more that patient isn't an offense you can build a team around.

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Date: 2/6/2013 3:25:55 PM
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Moutlinho and his team (70514) has been running Patient for a very long time and has been doing so very well.
I think that as long as you build your team for just that offense and can move your scorer from different positions every game i think you can get a real good performance out of your team.


And he's faced 3 3-2s in the last season and a half in league play (plus the odd 1-3-1). Of course, he's got three guards over 65k in salary, while only two other teams have two above 50k, so it's quite possible that a 3-2 would be a miserable decision against him - and it's also quite possible that there would be as much if not more success with motion. I still think that just having a single scoring threat is going to get shut down as long as the opposition is active and has close to the same level of players.

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