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Increasing 19 y.o. draftees' max starting skill to 9

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From: mink0ff

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Date: 7/4/2021 6:10:32 PM
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Just a piece of advice for my last message to you in this thread - it is extremely difficult to learn and develop (in every context) while one maintains the "I know everything" attitude.

I would still pick the 18 y.o. and strangely enough the reason why has nothing to do with elastics. I saw Alonso mention it in a post of his that I came across recently. Maybe you can go through his posts - there's something to learn from many of them.

However the fact that we are having this discussion means that 75 as a hard TSP threshold for 19 yo draftees with increased skills would be close to optimal.

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Date: 7/4/2021 6:35:57 PM
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I'm inclined to agree that 75 might be a bit too much. 65 is too low though, as there already are a bunch of 19 yo draftees with higher TSP.

70-75 is the range we should consider but what's more important is how it will be achieved.

Last edited by mink0ff at 7/4/2021 6:36:26 PM

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Date: 7/4/2021 7:34:42 PM
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Yeah, well... I was trying to pick a quote to address but I would have to quote the whole thing. This is exactly my thought process - piece by piece. I couldn't agree more with everything that you wrote, I just didn't want to serve it here right away.

Elastics could be compensated in the 20 yo training season and what you refer to as "losing rhythm" is just the way that we are accustomed to doing it right now. We would still get those fast initial OD pops and those ID cross-pops, just a little later in time and that would be compensated by the higher initial levels of the 19 yo trainee to a great extent. This:

...with 7 8 useless SB, u could argue that 6-8 reb for guards is also bad...
however is what I was referring to and this is a huge reason why the 19 y.o. would be the worse pick. It would cripple his max build and with the speed of training right now - that's what matters the most.

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Date: 7/4/2021 7:46:14 PM
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I don't agree that 75 is too much because those 75 doesn't split well
Not necessarily the case... That's 69 and boy, would I get out of my seat if I saw it on a 19 yo draftee:



Much consideration is needed.


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Date: 7/5/2021 4:20:50 AM
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Dude first come up with a solid arguement. Then maybe we can have a constructive conversation. Till then you can say anything u want it doesnt really matter ❤️

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Date: 7/5/2021 6:07:59 AM
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Hahah yeah, we don't get to choose that distribution (thank God), so this was an extreme example. Besides one could argue that those 6 TSP up to 75 are likely to make him a worse pick, not a better one. I myself bought some 49-52 TSP guys recently that I consider much better trainees than most 55-60 TSP players out there.

One thing that comes to mind is to discuss increasing HN/DV (to say 12-13 max levels) on 19 yo draftees and keep the rest as is in order to mimic one season of 1v1 but I don't believe that will be accepted well.

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