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111087.33 in reply to 111087.31
Date: 9/15/2009 1:43:54 PM
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yes, i didnt say 10 in total, 10 every season. means 20 players in 2 seasons time that are 20 and 21. and than every season get 10 more that would be a start. Off course you want to have plenty off players to pick from, but that is never going to happen. I talked to one or 2 other smaller basketball countries and even noticed in the USA U21 debate the BB developer charles said that the USA is behind china, italy or germany for example when it comes to enthusiasm on the forums and for support to their national teams. we have to start somewhere. and 10 would do me for now. Now I have only 7 or 8...

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111087.34 in reply to 111087.32
Date: 9/15/2009 1:46:05 PM
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probably. but I need to think about succes for the U21 team too. if the community is happy I work as a "farm" team for the NT I am more than happy to do that. but I am afraid I will be judged for results I have with the U21 team and not for how great players I get ready for the NT... And I think the way I want to follow, like you say yourself a player would be rdy for the NT at 23 or 24 at the latest. The players you have now, will last surely for many more seasons too come and are properly trained and are hopefully still trained not?

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111087.35 in reply to 111087.34
Date: 9/15/2009 1:51:13 PM
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probably. but I need to think about succes for the U21 team too. if the community is happy I work as a "farm" team for the NT I am more than happy to do that. but I am afraid I will be judged for results I have with the U21 team and not for how great players I get ready for the NT... And I think the way I want to follow, like you say yourself a player would be rdy for the NT at 23 or 24 at the latest. The players you have now, will last surely for many more seasons too come and are properly trained and are hopefully still trained not?


Well, the thing is the best U21 players are 21yo or 20yo, playing younger players will do very little to improve the U21 performance. Or am I missing your point?

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111087.36 in reply to 111087.35
Date: 9/15/2009 1:54:28 PM
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I think you do, if a 20 or 21 year old player is the best by far he will play... However I think our crop off 20 and mostly 21 year old players isnt that great. I will try my best to get other players trained better.I will show you an example in an email, dont want to give away too much details about player stats etc on here...

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111087.37 in reply to 111087.33
Date: 9/15/2009 5:15:53 PM
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yes, i didnt say 10 in total, 10 every season. means 20 players in 2 seasons time that are 20 and 21. and than every season get 10 more that would be a start. Off course you want to have plenty off players to pick from, but that is never going to happen. I talked to one or 2 other smaller basketball countries and even noticed in the USA U21 debate the BB developer charles said that the USA is behind china, italy or germany for example when it comes to enthusiasm on the forums and for support to their national teams. we have to start somewhere. and 10 would do me for now. Now I have only 7 or 8...



Yes, but I was saying 20 of each year. Because a 21year that's a little worse than a regular U21 player, is still better than a 20 year old player. I think you should lower a little bit your criteria because it's better to have 20 or 30 good players than 7 or 8 excellent players. At least, that's what I think

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111087.38 in reply to 111087.36
Date: 9/15/2009 5:23:56 PM
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I don't want to hark on about the good old days when I was the boss, but I do think my policy on age was sound. I pciked all the 21 year olds I felt were good enough to play NT21 international ball and then the best 20 year old and 19 year old prospects so that I could closely follow their progress - the likes of Barnett Singleton and Mark Alexander. That waym you can have a dialogue with the players coach (If he'll talk to you) or at least have a better idea of what type of players you'll need to play alongside them and then talk to the coaches of the other 20 year olds, to see if they are receptive to training their player in a certain way in order to make the NT, or have a starting place next year rather than a spot on the bench.
But, when it comes to court time, the only benefit of playing young players is to assess how they perform - forget xp gains, they are tiny, tiny, tiny.

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111087.39 in reply to 111087.38
Date: 9/15/2009 5:32:43 PM
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forget xp gains, they are tiny, tiny, tiny.


Not really - you get significantly more for NT/U21 games than you do regular games.

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111087.40 in reply to 111087.38
Date: 9/15/2009 5:33:02 PM
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I read somewhere that for each 80 oficial games played, experience would pop a level. So, as you say, the gains a very tiny. And even the influence of the experience is very low, so it's not worth to put 18 year old only for the exp.


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111087.41 in reply to 111087.40
Date: 9/15/2009 5:35:43 PM
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I read somewhere that for each 80 oficial games played, experience would pop a level.


That's not even in the same galaxy as reality.

And even the influence of the experience is very low


That's not really true either.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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111087.42 in reply to 111087.39
Date: 9/15/2009 5:41:08 PM
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and you play significantly less of them. we're talking the difference between playing a 19 yr old 20 times instead of 10 in his U21 career. Are 10 NT games going to add up to half a level of XP?

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111087.43 in reply to 111087.41
Date: 9/15/2009 5:42:27 PM
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So what's being said in the forums is wrong. But could you tell me what influence has experience in the game? Because I don't know exactly what it does

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