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Well, getting back on topic...

The easiest solution by far would be to continue having whoever host (meaning all games are played at their arenas), but to have no HCA given to the host nation. That way, we still get to have a host (I still don't know why we care, but I'll grant that maybe it adds "flavor" to some people), but we still get to see nations compete on equal footing.

How exactly is decided the WC host apart from the continental rotation ?

Coin flip.

sn't it the best nation at the B3 prediction contest anymore?

That's how costa rica got it, and I think that was the only time it worked that way.

So how is it usually done ? B3 prediction contest like CE said ?

But it will be unfair for 87 countries in BB. We have 98 countries in BB and 11 of them had HCA in WC (I counted NT-A and NT-U21). If we remove HCA than all other countries should be disappointed. Because they should expect HCA in future and in this way they will never have chance.
As I said before - my opinion is that HCA shouldn't exist in WC. But now, after last WC, it will be unfair for others. So I accept HCA for other countries in future.
I don't want to hear opinions: "Look, Poland won in past only because they had HCA, but now HCA is removed and we don't have chance to easier way".
And I repeat next thing. HCA isn't so huge advantage as You think. I think HCA is circa about 25% of difference between normal vs TIE (or CT vs normal).

Most of those countries will never make the worlds!

Solution: Bahamas every Worlds gets HCA no one gets advantage.

Every season we have 8 teams in WC qualified directly and 16 in repasages. So it's 24 countries interested to have HCA. Even if it will be always the same 24 (and we know it's impossible), then still 13 of them never had HCA and should be disappointed.
We have 37 countries with more users than Chile or Switzerland (these countries won medal in WC, even more than once). So these 37 countries have chance too, without HCA. With HCA this number increases.
And next thing. Few of smaller counries play in Africa or Asia. And for example in Africa we have 8 countries and 2 of them play in WC directly and next 4 in repasages. And they want to have HCA too. Look at Nigeria, they finished 5th in one of previous WC.
I think at least 60 countries should be interested to have HCA in future.

Last edited by B.B.King at 7/27/2011 4:29:06 PM

You really got me with [thisisajoke][thiswasajoke] thing. :)

I know it is a coin flip and you won't catch me again.

And I repeat next thing. HCA isn't so huge advantage as You think

So let me ask you this since you seem to be saying this repeatedly. Would you have TIE'd every game in the WC if you did not have HCA?

i know what you mean. But that goes for everything.

For example: for some weird reason, in Season 14 Italy hadn't made the worlds cup. They went in consolation tourney, and ofcourse, they won it. Italy, allong with France, Spain and Poland, are the european top nations. Yet Italy had HCA during the european campaign and they slaughtered everyone too (all other teams knew that they were going for the silver in the european champ in season 15)

If you going to argue about the world cup, then you might as well argue about the nation preliminaries and the nations championships aswell.

It was only the second time that Poland got to the World Cups...

Poland has greatly improved over the past few seasons. The current system gives HCA to a nation that has never hosted the WC before. It was Polands second participation. The system tries to chose a fair way to determine who gets HCA, and up till now, it always was pretty fair. The system can't forsee such a major improvement that the Polish Nt made over the past few seasons.

So as far as i'm concerned, their is nothing wrong with the current system during the groupfases.

I'd only like to ask that HCA would be removed when it comes to the semi finale stage of all tournaments. Cause their, if the host is still taking part in the game, then it will become a considerable advantage.

As it stands now, for the worlds, HCA goes to a team (who's possibly in the repechage) that rarely makes the worlds, so it gives the weaker teams a chance to make it to the worlds...

So as it stands now, the system is fine. It just needs to be tweaked so that HCA in semi's and finale stages of the NT competition gets taken away.

Revo

Last edited by AthrunZala at 7/31/2011 8:23:45 AM