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i lost the longer message was writing and dont want to retype it. Noone is talking about the ultimate trainee with respectable skills. Elmecca is talking about superstar potential with minimum level 5 in some skills. level 5 is mediocre when I am correct and not respectable. these players do not cost 1.5 or 1.7 million.

but i think it is worrying and is that what you tried to say or something along these lines, elmecca?? (pls correct me when I am wrong) when you cant see the difference between these 2 trainees. as one making sence to buy him (i can guarantee you he doesnt cost alot) and train him and the other one doesnt make any sense to train or buy him.

this is the guy that makes no sense to train him

Alex Whelan (24033646) Power Forward


Weekly salary: $ 3 283
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 8800
Age: 18
Height: 6'11" / 211 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: awful Handling: mediocre
Driving: pitiful Passing: average
Inside Shot: pitiful Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious


and this guy is worth it being trained

Darren Abu-Orf (24034699) Point Guard

Weekly salary: $ 3 754
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 0
Age: 18
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: awful Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: respectable
Driving: atrocious Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: awful

Experience: atrocious

at the first eye there isnt a big difference between these 2 players, but the poor OD and ID for the one and the average level on both these skills for the other, make for me a HUGE difference. And the second player, to buy him, you really dont need to break the bank... DV and JS are easily trainable and correctable, ID and OD arent.

Last edited by Astragoth at 2/12/2012 5:49:32 PM

the second guy costs no way 500k. did you look on the transfer list this week? i have seen several english rookies go for 200-250k that I would consider training.

we arent even talking about NT level players, but I find it very hard to believe that you would consider training such a player. with such low ID, IS, JR etc etc etc even these levels at inept (level 4) or mediocre (level 5) make a huge difference and they dont cost 500k, and this guy doesnt even have that. there is a huge difference if a player has level 1-3 in IS and OD or if he has these in JS and DV. IS and OD hardly pop when training other skills, but JS and DV do pop alot more often when training other skills.

you are right, maybe because it is your own player, because it is a rookie, the player has a sentimental value, i have never felt this for any off my players, but I can imagine for this reason and for this only reason you train him along 2 others. but please feel free to post the player on the forums and ask them if people would buy him to train him and i am sure 80% off the players if not a higher % will say no.

Last edited by Astragoth at 2/12/2012 6:04:29 PM

imagine this guy has the right height for a guard trainee. this guy wont sell for more than 200k-250k. I have seen these players many times on the TL that have the right height, also for big trainees.

Frank Lyons (24034577)
Starting Price: $ 90 000
Auction ends: 14/02/2012 22:15:08
Owner: Kojot Team


Weekly salary: $ 4 242
Age: 18
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: mediocre Passing: inept
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: atrocious

Experience: atrocious

ps i even think with the wrong height this guy is better trainable than the other guy, whom i believe isnt trainable. respectable IS for a start on a guard is not bad, and it is at some point trainable to a high level.

Last edited by Astragoth at 2/12/2012 6:11:50 PM

show me one that has higher skills than mediocre (level 5) and that goes for 400k and i will shut up forever.

(9256889) started at 1 IS. Now a PF on Canadas NT.

ok, i am out off this discussion for good. we are talking about what makes sense to train and what doesnt make sense. we arent talking about the one or two exceptions on this rule and whether it is possible to train a guy with 1 IS up to NT level. EVERYTHING!!!!! is possible, is it feasible NO!!!!

good luck with training players like the first one.

^^^what astra replied to me.

Sorry accidentally deleted your message astra. Stupid touch screen phones.

i am not talking in this discussion about NT players not even U21 players and not even top league players. I believe that the first player isnt worth it to train, not even for a small team. Guess some people would train him or think it is the right thing to do and train this kind off player. I cant say anything else, than that I believe it is a mistake. What people do after that is their own decision.