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someone had to do it

Damn it...

Beat me to it.

I just think I don't want to believe that he did it after all those late nights watching those 7 tours...if he was doped up when he won those tours then how was he still good enough for 3rd when he came back from retirement?? It just boggles the mind.

I am with ya Tremell, I have watched the tours and read his books.

It's highly likely that he (like most others) took drugs during that era. But still there is no hard proof of it, just some hearsay for x-riders. I still think he is one of the greatest athletes of all time.

Yeah I mean you never want to worship or look up to a potential cheat but I don't know what good can be gained out of it coming out now. About the top 5 in all those tour wins are now implicated in doping so it just cheapens the sport for the 'most likely' clean cyclists we are seeing now.

Its a witch hunt to be sure.. and i have heard nothing but rumours about Lance since well b4 he won his first tour..

The sport is going in the right direction for sure, i dont think any other sport is doing as much to catch drug cheats as cycling.. however, it is the same old adage.. the cheaters are usually 2 steps ahead of those trying to catch them

Once USADA presents the data to UCI it will all come out... I think out of everyone Lance has more to lose than anyone from admitting to it.. I follow cycling pretty closely, closer than any other sport, and if even 1% of what you hear and read is true, then this guy has a lot to answer for.. If not for his own doping, but systematically encouraging those around him to do so, and supplying them with the know how and the drugs with which to do it..

Same as Contador.. i have no doubt he doped.. since his positive in 2010 tour, he has cracked on nearly every mountain stage he has competed in, whereas in the past he blew past the opposition riders like he was on a motor scooter.

Maybe everone else doped.. but that doesnt make it right.... if the UCI does strip them, who knows what will happen cause i think most of the guys that finished behind him in the past, are also proven dopers :(

For mine, i still to this day hate Alexander Vnokourov.. I remember watching him in the 07 tour, he was down and out and kept on attacking and showing his strength.. then bang, comes out with a positive... nearly turned me off the sport for good!

Yeah I've always followed the cycling too hookz because my grandparents and a majority or my aunties and uncles are Dutch and that's their passion. Such a tough sport- mental, physical and no matter where you see a bike race it's usually amazing scenery.

I remember my immense disappointment when Vino did that too. You feel so proud to watch what u think is a sportsman pushing himself to the limit and breaking others like he was doing that tour, then bang, gone. That jubilation of watching it turns to sadness that it was a fake pretty quick.

Really well written piece man, enjoyed your insight.

It is hard for me, Kingfish just seems to lack charisma. So maybe on second thoughts it does suit you.

nice master yoda haha

seriously zyler was a cheat & fanny was a troll

what did u like?

It was suspected that Zyler was a cheat. None of us actually know what happened.

I don't care about Fanny. He was an ego-centred boy. He'll mature (hopefully) and grow out of that.

I liked that Zyler was helpful.

I have no doubt that he doped

He probably did dope.

It's highly likely that he (like most others) took drugs during that era.

I really don't understand how you people can draw these conclusions? It's a sad day indeed where people are now assumed guilty until they prove their innocence. And what are these 'conclusions' even based on? Reading a couple of articles on the internet and then thinking you know the whole story? Please.

Sure, everyone is entitled to their 'opinion', but these uninformed opinions seem to be thrown around as fact more often than not. The only real 'fact' is that you can't possibly know whether he took drugs or not. Unless you've been privy to some other evidence that the rest of the general public haven't been, I don't see how you could possibly come to those conclusions?

Just because someone gives up trying to clear their name doesn't make them guilty. Maybe he's just finally had enough of the which hunt that's been out to get him for the last decade? At the end of the day, he knows the truth and he ultimately has to live with the decisions he made. If he did cheat, he knows he didn't deserve the titles. His name does not deserve to be tarnished through the court of public opinion without any real evidence being made public.

The only indisputable facts are that he has never failed a drug test, despite completing hundreds over the course of his career. I can accept that this doesn't necessarily prove anything 100%, but they are the only facts we have been provided with. anything else is just hearsay, rumour, opinion or unproven statements.

The man is an inspiration to thousands of cancer patients and cancer survivors alike. He proved that we can all achieve greatness no matter what challenges life throws at us. I cannot understand what good could possibly come from dragging his name through the mud? The work he has done for cancer research and to help fellow cancer patients and survivors is tremendous. What's the point in undoing all of the good that has come from his inspirational achievements?