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231740.33 in reply to 231740.32
Date: 1/6/2013 2:27:24 AM
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Hey,

I didn't know that hack Marichal was an option in the tactics page! :-)


We are halfway through the season already, and the competition is still very close. Wabeke & Wolves are 1 game behind Antwerp, Gent & Tool. But we have the advantage of a slightly easier schedule once the interconference games are over.
I think the difference between the conferences is not as big a last season, a couple of teams in our half have improved, and we also have a very decent new team with Saint-Servais.

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231740.34 in reply to 231740.33
Date: 1/6/2013 9:24:21 AM
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Hey,

I didn't know that hack Marichal was an option in the tactics page! :-)


We are halfway through the season already, and the competition is still very close. Wabeke & Wolves are 1 game behind Antwerp, Gent & Tool. But we have the advantage of a slightly easier schedule once the interconference games are over.
I think the difference between the conferences is not as big a last season, a couple of teams in our half have improved, and we also have a very decent new team with Saint-Servais.


SKW and TBS both stand way above the rest in there division. However, i have the impression that TBS is saving players for cup games ( otherwise, how can you explain some of his losses?) SKW is doing what he usually does.

your oppinion concerning us having the easier schedule, i reckon that goes for the Cookies team ;)

The problem with our conference, is that we got 3 teams (Falco, Tool and Angels) who could all beat eachother. If you include Cookies and Beerschot ( if they are in good shape) then any team in our conference could drop several games. We all know how important HCA is in the PO finales, and unless a team is hiding a serious financial reserves somewhere, then you can't win without having HCA.

I'm forseeing that atleast each team in our conference will lose 1 game, most likely 2 because certain games will have to be given up for training. That means that the best team in our conference will finish with a 18-4 or 17-5 record. i don't see TBS or SKW go that deep into the cup that they'll still be in it when the returngames of your own conference start, and thus they'll both win all games ( except the one against eachother). That means that the top team of the other division most likely will get HCA in the PO's. (the only way for it not to happen would be to see SKW and TBS lose several more games, something which i just can't see happening).

So unless another financial powerhouse like the suns comes, the team with HCA is most likely to take it all. that is why HCA battle this season is so important. It's hurting teams in our conference if the top keep at the top, because the top teams have the better attendance. and if you block off the top, you'll get a situation like Ventola created in II.2 a few seasons back, where he made the PO finales each season, but due to HCA of the other division, he kept losing the PO's...

So a lot is riding on this Season, for many teams. Falco and Tool need it because their players won't get any younger and could use the bigger paycheck of the BBBL to earn cash to replace there current players. Angels need it or it can't hope to keep Marichal in the team. So for 3 teams a lot is riding on this season... TBS and SKW don't have infinite time windows either, but with a less stronger conference, they can save more cash more easely and thus renew there rosters (or strengthen them) without giving up as much as what would happen for Angels, Tool or Falco.

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231740.35 in reply to 231740.32
Date: 1/6/2013 9:27:10 AM
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well, i got lucky that you didn't plan on winning it.

i got a lucky break there. I'm also happy that Marichal isn't injured for the long run or for the NT. That would have really bugged me big time...

and apparently, it was Sebhilton who injured Marichal last time around.

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231740.36 in reply to 231740.35
Date: 1/7/2013 3:56:49 AM
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and apparently, it was Sebhilton who injured Marichal last time around.

Wrong. I was gently sitting on my bench while Karamanis had a very light contact with Marichal.
I don't hit opponents by myself, even if they desserve it :p

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231740.37 in reply to 231740.36
Date: 1/7/2013 3:57:20 AM
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Night results
Laeken 71 - les boubous warriors 99
Saint-Servais 108 - BC Vleesklak 92
THOMAS COOK 109 - BBC Falco Gent 135
Brussels Mussels 80 - Antwerp Angels 100
t-stars 54 - Beerschot Bears 96
Sk Wabeke 82 - c is for cookie 61
rubo niel 82 - Tool Belgium 111
TBS Wolves 82 - armstrongs 48

Best collective performance of the evening
Point : 135 : BBC Falco Gent
Rebound : 72 : BBC Falco Gent
Assist : 27 : Saint-Servais
Steal : 11 : les boubous warriors, TBS Wolves
Block : 6 : Saint-Servais, Beerschot Bears

Personal best performances of the evening
Point: 38: G. Siciovas (THOMAS COOK)
Rebound: 22: V. Tiber (BBC Falco Gent)
Assist: 11: T. Isaias (BBC Falco Gent)
Steal: 5: J. Jetzinger (Beerschot Bears)
Block: 3: V. Chelpannikov (Saint-Servais), Y. Chikishev (THOMAS COOK)


5 best of the evening
Point Guard: T. Isaias (BBC Falco Gent) (28 Point, 3 Rebound, 11 Assist, 1 Steal, 0 Block ), H. Rueda Ochoa (Tool Belgium) (24 Point, 4 Rebound, 10 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 31
Shooting Guard: R. van Baal (BBC Falco Gent) (34 Point, 5 Rebound, 8 Assist, 3 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 31
Small Forward: G. Siciovas (THOMAS COOK) (38 Point, 2 Rebound, 9 Assist, 1 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 36
Power Forward: P. Dewaele (Saint-Servais) (35 Point, 12 Rebound, 1 Assist, 1 Steal, 1 Block ): Evaluation: 42
Center: L. Ivanov (BBC Falco Gent) (19 Point, 21 Rebound, 0 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 34


MVP(s) of the evening
P. Dewaele (Saint-Servais) (35 Point, 12 Rebound, 1 Assist, 1 Steal, 1 Block ): Evaluation: 42


The bad performance of the evening
M. Cícero (t-stars) (3 Point, 1 Rebound, 5 Assist, 3 Steal, 0 Block ), E. Quiapo (Sk Wabeke) (0 Point, 0 Rebound, 1 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: -5


All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens: T. Bombardieri (Sk Wabeke), S. Katushonok (armstrongs): 7 Turnover

Player targeted by the referees: E. Mahsut (BC Vleesklak), N. Lilić (THOMAS COOK), L. Zannirato (Brussels Mussels): 6 Personal fault

The iron man: D. Favasuli (BC Vleesklak), H. Hwee Siong (THOMAS COOK), G. Siciovas (THOMAS COOK), J. Van Sande (Brussels Mussels), J. Eeckhout (Antwerp Angels), K. Butrimanskas (t-stars), M. Cícero (t-stars), W. Cunsong (t-stars), H. Olivais (t-stars), Z. Abu-Abdel (t-stars), R. Detremmerie (c is for cookie), B. Hackett (c is for cookie), G. Longobardi (TBS Wolves): 48 Minute

The shooter: V. Pupkevicius (Sk Wabeke): 7 Three points scored

The best performer: V. Tiber (BBC Falco Gent), B. Brañas (Tool Belgium), H. Rueda Ochoa (Tool Belgium): Rating: 17

The worst performer: A. Vandenbosch (BC Vleesklak): Rating: 4


From: Heyland
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231740.38 in reply to 231740.37
Date: 1/8/2013 4:06:27 PM
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70 !!!!

The record is ours.

Well done Beykan!

D.II is just too easy.

Last edited by Heyland at 1/8/2013 4:18:20 PM

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231740.39 in reply to 231740.38
Date: 1/8/2013 4:24:23 PM
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70 !!!!

The record is ours.

Well done Beykan!

D.II is just too easy.


if he hadn't fouled out so fast, he probably would have dropped 115.
think of it. 70 point sin 31 minutes. Not sure what Tool was doing tho, but the guy defending him must have have had atrocious as OD. Seriously, 29-37 from the field, not even Marichal can match that. ( good thing that Marichal knows how to defend tho).

i reckon Tool was saving his team for the cup, where as TBS has got a BBBL team away game and thus is forgoing the cup...

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231740.41 in reply to 231740.40
Date: 1/9/2013 3:14:52 AM
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Congrats on the win Heyland.

Honestly, I don't understand the result (at least for the two 1st quarters.)
I can accept a loss but not with such gap.
Look at the team rating.

I played with my A team, normal and good GS.

"Lucky fan stole the ball"...That's what I even read yesterday when watching the end of the game! It summarize everything...
WTF..

And regarding Beykan, what did he eat before the match? With 15 rating average during the season, he had 19 yesterday! Without CT. I think the game engine was in a funny mood yesterday.


Last edited by sebhilton at 1/9/2013 3:21:40 AM

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231740.42 in reply to 231740.41
Date: 1/9/2013 3:15:23 AM
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Night results
Antwerp Angels 104 - Sk Wabeke 92
c is for cookie 103 - t-stars 87
Beerschot Bears 104 - rubo niel 112
Tool Belgium 71 - TBS Wolves 96
armstrongs 102 - Laeken 48
les boubous warriors 102 - Saint-Servais 89
BC Vleesklak 112 - THOMAS COOK 144
BBC Falco Gent 107 - Brussels Mussels 89

Best collective performance of the evening
Point : 144 : THOMAS COOK
Rebound : 61 : Saint-Servais
Assist : 36 : c is for cookie
Steal : 13 : Brussels Mussels
Block : 11 : armstrongs

Personal best performances of the evening
Point: 70: A. Beykan (TBS Wolves)
Rebound: 23: Y. Yen Ping (armstrongs)
Assist: 14: M. Cícero (t-stars)
Steal: 5: F. Marvin (Brussels Mussels)
Block: 6: C. de Toro (Beerschot Bears)


5 best of the evening
Point Guard: M. Lapčić (les boubous warriors) (33 Point, 8 Rebound, 7 Assist, 2 Steal, 1 Block ): Evaluation: 43
Shooting Guard: A. Beykan (TBS Wolves) (70 Point, 2 Rebound, 1 Assist, 2 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 61
Small Forward: N. Avella (BC Vleesklak) (36 Point, 7 Rebound, 2 Assist, 3 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 35
Power Forward: P. Coemelck (Brussels Mussels) (34 Point, 12 Rebound, 6 Assist, 3 Steal, 1 Block ): Evaluation: 39
Center: J. Irigoyen (Beerschot Bears) (35 Point, 11 Rebound, 4 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ), H. Hwee Siong (THOMAS COOK) (24 Point, 21 Rebound, 3 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 42


MVP(s) of the evening
A. Beykan (TBS Wolves) (70 Point, 2 Rebound, 1 Assist, 2 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: 61


The bad performance of the evening
G. Massey (Laeken) (0 Point, 7 Rebound, 4 Assist, 0 Steal, 0 Block ): Evaluation: -6


All kinds of statistics
The player who forgot to remove his mittens: S. Baudoux (Antwerp Angels): 7 Turnover

Player targeted by the referees: N. Urueña (Beerschot Bears), F. Lemos (Tool Belgium), X. Yongyao (TBS Wolves), D. Christofilakis (TBS Wolves), A. Beykan (TBS Wolves), L. Steuer (Laeken): 6 Personal fault

The iron man: W. Marichal (Antwerp Angels), M. Corman (Antwerp Angels), B. Latinčić (c is for cookie), K. Butrimanskas (t-stars), M. Cícero (t-stars), Z. Abu-Abdel (t-stars), C. de Toro (Beerschot Bears), J. Irigoyen (Beerschot Bears), N. Avella (BC Vleesklak), A. Aguiar de Luque (BC Vleesklak), H. Hwee Siong (THOMAS COOK), P. Coemelck (Brussels Mussels), N. Vanermen (Brussels Mussels): 48 Minute

The shooter: A. Beykan (TBS Wolves), M. Lapčić (les boubous warriors), H. Vollkammer (les boubous warriors): 5 Three points scored

The best performer: A. Beykan (TBS Wolves): Rating: 19

The worst performer: R. Ezerinš (Laeken): Rating: 3


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231740.43 in reply to 231740.41
Date: 1/9/2013 4:33:29 AM
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Congrats on the win Heyland.

Honestly, I don't understand the result (at least for the two 1st quarters.)
I can accept a loss but not with such gap.
Look at the team rating.

I played with my A team, normal and good GS.

"Lucky fan stole the ball"...That's what I even read yesterday when watching the end of the game! It summarize everything...
WTF..

And regarding Beykan, what did he eat before the match? With 15 rating average during the season, he had 19 yesterday! Without CT. I think the game engine was in a funny mood yesterday.


i'm concerned tho...
Beykans potential should have been reached long ago. His Gs was just like Lemos' GS, a strong. Hate to know what he could do when he's proficient...

If you look at most of his games, then his ratings are totally off. I've beaten Falco with simular ratings, so don't get me wrong or so, but this is not normal. Beykan has dropped 30+ points against several of the top SG's in our league. He should be capped long time ago. There is no way he could still be trained unless he was being trained on secundairies, but he's played SG the entire season. Either Heyland knows something i don't about training, or the GE has lost it on several occasions when Beykan was playing.

it reminded me of my loss against Armstrongs. I was up by 21 points in Q4 and Armstrong rallied and tied the game up to take the win in overtime. erasing a 21 point defecit in 1 Q just ain't realistic. in 1 Q, he dropped the same amount of points as in Q1 and Q2. i was very frustrated at the time about that, assuming that it was one of the GE's bizar moments. However, when looking at Beykan, i'm starting to wonder if it's a fluke or not...

Last season, Beykans points were a lot lower, yet his ratings were more or less the same. he had one break out game against Rubo Niel, where he dropped 46 points ( but his opponent wasn't that great of a guard, so that was understandable to some degree). However, this season, Beykan has had several breakout games. He's averaging twice the amount of points he was averaging last season, without a real increase in his ratings. not to mention, last season, Beykan was averagins 0.237 from downtown. This season, he's averaging 0.388 from downtown. The only logical explanation for that would be that Beykan is receiving JR training and has significantly raised his JR, but if that had happened his ratings should have gone up by 1 or 2 full lvls, which they haven't...

Futhermore, the Wolves ratings in offense are also very weird. if he had a guard playing C and defense shuffled around like i occasionaly do it when i need to get some training on Marichal, then you'd be able to explain his low ratings for offense and defense. Howeve,r Beykan is playing SG dropping a ton of 3 balls, and the rating remains that low? He inversed his PF and C, which should hardly effect his ratings in inside, and his PG and SF both played there respective positions...

i went thru Beykans history to try and find out more. I noticed that he played some PF in his first 2 seasons. I'd assume his IS, ID and RB lvls would be 6 all at starting lvl. But he never played a single game at the C, meaning he never got monoposition IS or ID training. if his RB sublvl had been trained, then he should be averaging more than just 3 rebounds a game. in total about 12 times he played enough minutes on the PF to get a full training there. If i include the SF played while being trained 1 vs 1, his IS could be at a decent lvl. But he was up against Lemos, who is an SF and who should have had some IS ( unless if defensif roles where changed, didn't check that out yet).

Something is off here. something just doesn't seem right. There is no way a player can double up his average in points made without his ratings increasing thru to serious training. Everyone still has the same guards on there team, so opposing defense is more or less the same... something is out of the ordinary here...

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