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237187.33 in reply to 237187.29
Date: 3/7/2013 3:44:29 PM
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Honestly. EAK is still our number 1, even at 33 for at least another season, maybe two. I dont think we will need to worry too much on the SF issue until next term.


This will completely depend on how quickly he starts losing his skills. Some players once they hit 33 start deteriorating quickly, others (I would argue most) deteriorate at a much slower rate. I had one player that lost 4 skill levels the first 3 weeks after he turned 33. I couldn't sell him quick enough. It's another hidden attribute that is built into each player.

What do Hall's skills look like now? I remember a few seasons back it looked like he might bet the NT SF of the future but I guess he plays almost exclusively at PF now. Most of those other SF's you named shouldn't be anywhere near a top 10 NT IMO.

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237187.34 in reply to 237187.33
Date: 3/7/2013 3:53:16 PM
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With our current SF depth chart, EAK will be number 1 throughout this season, maybe two. I understand he might drop quickly, but I think he should be good to go for at least another season.

For next season we do not need SFs who are top 10 NT worthy. These SFs will usually be playing backup and against the weaker America teams. Hopefully they will progress and will be useable against tougher competition, but that is in the future. Also Chretien is a really really good outside SF last I remember :)

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237187.35 in reply to 237187.32
Date: 3/7/2013 11:16:29 PM
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i am a big fun of rebounding on guards as well, but not sure if I would put it against ID. Since most of teams are playing LI now and also have guards with nice IS, isnt counting on big man to stop driving guards a bit too much?

Agree with you about PG, and just to add a bit to it, I believe that passing is another skill that is important for ALL players (not only RB). Offensive flow and passing on SF/big man is the most underrated thing in the game right now (that's why teams with crazy multiskills at SF and PF are winning at this point).

Our depth at SF is really terrible. Unless Hall had decent number of pops last season (unfortunately werent able to see his skills throughout the season) and I dont think we have any upcoming prospects at that position. Finding such player for now and for the future will be biggest challenge for new manager.

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237187.36 in reply to 237187.35
Date: 3/7/2013 11:21:43 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
Would love to train one of those guys but
go ahead and search Canada for MVP or higher young players to bid on
tough to find
from other countries you can always finish off what someone else started
In the end Superstars aren't really Superstars are they?

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237187.37 in reply to 237187.36
Date: 3/7/2013 11:53:51 PM
Pszczyna Team
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Yes, I know. I am trying to find one myself with no success. So I am training superstar (talking about potential unfortunately :D )

Basically it seems like only question in this elections is. Do we want fresh blood from respected country to come here and maybe introduce some new ideas (that everyone may or may not like), or do we want to continue with the same managers that already showed what they can achieve with Canada's NT or JNT (whether you like the results or not)

I just want to make one plea. Please do not cast your vote based on the fact that you know somebody or want to help your friend who is still unexperienced manager (if I remember correctly that happened with our NT already and disaster wasnt far). This is really only hurting Canada's community and NT teams

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Date: 3/8/2013 8:12:23 AM
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I wasnt talking about getting 15+ on SF in PA. with my trainee i am aiming for 12.

actually i am one of managers who loves to have versatile C. I like my PF to have higher OD,DR, and higher PS, JS on C

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237187.40 in reply to 237187.29
Date: 3/8/2013 11:22:01 AM
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Going back to what jfarb said, I don't think whoever gets the job will have the talent to achieve any gold this term, but in 3-4 seasons, I think Canada should be a contender on the world stage. I think their job will be to try to build a team capable of winning the world championship, and SF is the biggest hole with the other positions having some elite starters. Besides Hall who should play PF, imo Labbe is the best of the SF bunch Mod-Bballin mentioned, and he'll be capped at only 122 SP. We need to find 1 or 2 teams to pick up and train elite SF prospects (which will first require convincing managers to sell those trainees, if there are any out there).

Also, Canada has gotten good at LI/MtM, but the new manager will need to adjust to the changes being made to the game engine. If the BB's are able to accomplish what they want, the team will have to be more versatile with the lineups being used. It'll require changing the advice given to NT caliber trainees, and redesigning the build of the team.

TL;DR - the manager will need to build a team capable of winning a championship, and that'll take more than the term their elected for, so I'm looking for long term plans

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237187.43 in reply to 237187.41
Date: 3/8/2013 3:16:44 PM
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@Bballin: While there is no doubt you would be the best choice for NT manager when it comes to community involvement and organization, I'm skeptical about your ability to actually manage the team. You've been playing this game for twelve seasons now and your best result was a 14-8 record in division II to go along with a paltry 41% win ratio over the course of the other four seasons your team spent in the second division. The other seven seasons of your team's BB existence has been spent in division III, which is the lowest competitive division in Canada as far as I'm concerned. Division IV is comprised of about 20% of Canada's users, but it's basically where brand new teams learn the basics of the game and where inactive teams go to die. It would also be easier to look more favourably on your team's success if the most recent season was your team's best, but instead you're about to embark on your second straight season back in division III.


I am and always have been focused with training. I know it is possible to train and have success, but there have been many times where training has come first and my attachment to players hurt me. My first season(which was in div IV) was like most peoples. I was confused, not sure what I was doing and it turned out that I played normal all season long and trained my HoF 18yo PG in JR with a level 1 doctor and without getting the appropriate minutes. It was not until near the end of the season that I picked up a level 4 trainer and trained him properly(with advice from The Mogul). This player was Winston Hightower and he became the focus of my BB life. My goal was to get him onto Canada U21s and after I did, I didn't want to let go of him. He became a liability. He was an expensive, inefficient PG with no secondaries. I was in div III, had barely expanded my arena and was trying to win games with a roster that had to support his 100k salary. When I finally promoted I thought I would do fine in div II, but his salary meant I didnt have enough cap space for a competitive roster and I flopped. I sold him and the next 4 seasons in div II were spent surviving and building an arena while training my new trainee(Quentin Jakes) and during my last season in div II I began playing him at C to get IS training. I probably could have stayed in div II had it not been for my out of position training, but I could not help myself from training him. I have three trainees I focus on now, making being competitive more difficult. Last season I went the whole season with a very salary efficient roster. With about a 200k roster I finished second in my conference with a 19-3 record only because I tanked my first two games of the season(I was planning on tanking) and then lost a game where I forgot to set a lineup. I was a shoe in to promote until someone splurged and ended up with a 480k roster. What I am trying to say is that while I have not had much success(c'mon I made the quarterfinals of the cup once! ;) ) with my team, it is slightly due to the fact that I have always been focused with training, horrible with finances and impatient.

In fact I have a 120k level 6 trainer just because I dont have the money to get a cheaper one currently and I dont want to go below level 6. Thats how much I focus on training. Im bankrupting myself in order to train 3 guys who I think can be great. I have not had a lot of ingame success, but I do achieve my goals(Jakes and Hightower both making their U21s).

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