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From: Tangosz

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Date: 12/23/2013 2:38:32 PM
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Oh, well if you're not asking for a long, it's already been implemented:


Date Training Summary
12/20/2013 Jump Shot for Wingmen
Merlin Blankenship ↑popped↑ in Jump Shot from tremendous to wondrous .
Merlin Blankenship ↑popped↑ in Free Throw from inept to mediocre .

Voila! FT was trained with JS.

[seriously though, there's less correlation between FT% and FG% than most people think, and anyway, I don't take realism to be the overriding criterion when it comes to game design choices]

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Date: 12/23/2013 2:45:32 PM
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Thanks and good point. I'm just not sure if I want to "waste" a week of training on some young guns when I could train skill points. FT trains the same with any trainer and any age and I don't plan on having a team of old guys, so when would be best to train FT or even stamina? Even weeks like the All Star week I can still get my trainees valuable minutes.

On top of that I want a trainee of mine, Vest, to make the US U21 NT for S27. Seems like I would hurt his chances training FT's, even for a week.

I just don't see why team training stats aren't used as secondary skills in regards to pops. For example nothing would train passing other than passing, and I get that. But, JS should have some affect on FT's, even if it is small.

I don't know, I thought more people would agree.

From: Billy

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Date: 12/23/2013 2:47:20 PM
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Wow, I wonder how much JS would it take to have a FT pop. Seems like a lot. Pretty cool... Thanks for sharing.

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 12/23/2013 3:00:32 PM
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Thanks and good point. I'm just not sure if I want to "waste" a week of training on some young guns when I could train skill points. FT trains the same with any trainer and any age and I don't plan on having a team of old guys, so when would be best to train FT or even stamina? Even weeks like the All Star week I can still get my trainees valuable minutes.


If you don't want to waste time training FTs, you shouldn't waste time hoping that the FT fairy will arrive bearing FT pops. Personally, I think the solution would just be to scale FT percentage from maybe 10 instead of 0, so these anomalies will no longer occur without having to increase training speed for a skill that's already the fastest and easiest thing to train.

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Date: 12/23/2013 3:09:59 PM
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That's a suggestion I could live with. Make the floor of atrocious FT 10%, so we don't have these 0-954 FT over their career.

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Date: 12/23/2013 4:19:01 PM
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That's a suggestion I could live with. Make the floor of atrocious FT 10%, so we don't have these 0-954 FT over their career.


This seems like a good enough idea

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Date: 12/23/2013 5:35:24 PM
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Alright, that makes sense too.

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Date: 12/23/2013 6:27:12 PM
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Lets imagine what is a IV league of <any country> in real life. Does any professionals play there? I think not. Just some guys, who like to play ball. One of them is very funny. He has some skills and plays well, but everytime he goes to the free-throw line, he miss it on purpose. And counts proudly - zero from 952, zero from 953! Everybody laughs seeing another brick. All having fun. Guy proudly says "I have never ever made a free throw in a game"...

And here came you saying you cant miss next time, make at least 10% of it. How that guy should feel about this suggestion? :)

EDIT: The point of my post is following: You will never make a perfect game, as different people want different things. As long as it is not a bug (it is not a bug in this case), just use your imagination and situations like 0% from FT line will become possible. Btw, I am not saying, I am right here. Your suggestion makes sense. But I am the one, who believes that everything is fine here with free-throws. We have much bigger problems in this game.

Last edited by Internal at 12/23/2013 6:36:40 PM

From: Billy

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Date: 12/23/2013 10:05:47 PM
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Change of topic but Im just curious, what are the bigger problems that people want fixed? Keeping new players from leaving?

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Date: 12/23/2013 11:02:58 PM
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Voila! FT was trained with JS.


JS training doesn't train FTs......you got lucky and got a FT pop from your cross training 10%.
I have gotten a SB pop while training passing....doesn't mean passing training trains SB....it means that the 10% allocated for cross training was enough to get my SB(your FT) up to the next level.
Be careful what you tell the newbies of the game. The next thing you know you will have a newbie crying in the bug forums about how they trained 12 weeks of JS and haven't gotten their FT pop yet.
To the newbies...
JS training doesn't train FTS

Last edited by Yellow cake at 12/23/2013 11:03:46 PM

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 12/24/2013 2:41:42 AM
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ft comes with stamina right.

I didnt vote. I don't see a valid point it to change it ,all it does it guards even more expensive.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/24/2013 2:42:12 AM

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