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Date: 10/24/2020 7:41:01 AM
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You have the luxury of being able to set the perfect pricing by manipulating LT and Bleachers.

If you lower the price of the LT you will get 10k for sure. You already know you can sell 19,382 seats at $12 don't you? So if you lower the price of LT to $12 you will definitely sell out LT and then you should sell 9,382 bleachers. While this is how it should go, you would obviously lose money that way, as you lose money every time you set the price too low and sell out a section of the stands.

The real question is how much do you need to lower the price to get close to selling out and whether that will make you more money or not. We know that in most cases if you lower the price by 10% you will sell more than 10% extra seats, so it's usually worth it, but we don't know for sure this would happen in all cases (for example in situations where the prices are very low). Keep in mind people usually draw this conclusion from the more expensive seat categories that are more stable, but bleachers are volatile and it's likely that price has a lower impact compared to other factors.

Going back to my first sentence, if I was you, I would experiment with (relatively small) changes and try to figure out if there are benefit from lowering or hiking LT and bleachers. The reality is, given your massive arena it's unlikely to make much of a difference either way if you change the price of both sections by the same amount (say 9%), because if you increase the LT price and lower bleachers, the loss in one category will be mostly made up by the extra profit in the other category.

Also the benefit of higher LT has been observed in D1 and, while it appeared fairly uncontroversial, it was quite small, so I would be surprised if you can establish with certainty that lowering LT will get you some more money in D2.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/24/2020 7:47:20 AM

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Date: 10/28/2020 6:24:54 AM
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when dealing with large arena consider using tv station level 3, it helps, i can confirm
also consider having a superior PR. advanced does not really cut it.


on a separate note, I have xperimenting w arenas over past 4 seasons. not jsut mine but encouraging local users to do so as well, implicitly gathering more data.


while i agree there is a corelation between how LT and BL are filled, even on my best day, with all the optimisation, 100% positive fan survey, in div 2 i've never seen someone gain more than 400k or 410k$ for one regular seaons game.
the point is, in D2 i think there is a global cap.

in D1 i am not necessarily sure if such a cap exists. most i ve gotten was 603k, granted wth the help of promotion fan boost

now with no fan boost but with all the positive variables i am earning around 560k$.


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Date: 10/28/2020 8:24:08 AM
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As ibsaid. I am unsure about a cap for div1. But am pretty sure there is one for div 2.

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Date: 10/31/2020 8:43:56 PM
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Yes that's my feeling also and I'm not sure where the break-even point is. Lots of LT only give a little bit more money for top tier teams in D1. If you can make around 575k-600k gates (I have seen teams averaging above that with bleachers at 19 or 20), then lots of LT can give you a little extra profit, but I wouldn't advise that. 15/5 14/6 are more reliable ratios at all levels and are also cheaper

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Date: 11/6/2020 6:02:23 AM
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I think that you should try 12 18 103 500 as prices, cause your drop as been caused by decreased bl from 14k to 7k

with bl 12 lt 18 all fan willing to pay between >12 and <24 will buy BL ticket

Last edited by Camy at 11/6/2020 6:02:46 AM

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Date: 12/28/2020 3:01:46 AM
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I earned 611k from last game. I was champion last year.

Attendance: 16261 3041 406 38 19746
Prices: 20-55-200-1000

Maybe I can earn 630-640k, if 500 more people bought lower tier.

I also was champion two seasons ago and my highest income was 607k that year.

Last edited by capali at 12/28/2020 3:02:07 AM

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