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Some 19 yo. players have so much advantage that no 18 yo. can compete with. In some NT's there are 19 yo drafted players with like average TSP 52-55, soon to hit 160's and being the starters in way above average NT rosters.

The reason you do not see them is because very rarely people sell these gems. We had for example excellent height guard with ALL inside skills lvl 8 and also with high sublevels And i just do not see how anyone can catch him up 160 tsp easy flat

These guys have coming IN the inside training seasons same inside skills as other guards are coming OUT of

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 9/2/2021 11:51:03 AM

Some 19 yo. players have so much advantage that no 18 yo. can compete with. In some NT's there are 19 yo drafted players with like average TSP 52-55, soon to hit 160's and being the starters in way above average NT rosters.

The reason you do not see them is because very rarely people sell these gems. We had for example excellent height guard with ALL inside skills lvl 8 and also with high sublevels And i just do not see how anyone can catch him up 160 tsp easy flat

These guys have coming IN the inside training seasons same inside skills as other guards are coming OUT of

Exactly...SOME ! And my impression is that these players are very few. 52-55 TSP isnt anything special unless of course they have their difficult skills to train @ 7 or 8. In my national team the suggestion is 60 tsp minimum for 19 yo and my national team isnt even in the best teams in the world. My two cents to the OP and to all users who dont like this change is that we cant evaluate it untill it happens. What ur talking about is the exception of exceptions Im talking about the big picture. Till now the top 50 18 yo drafts in the world are much better than the top 50 19yo drafts . Most people sell drafts not train them

In the beginning of this season did you observe how much 18yo NT prospects were sold? And compare them to the 19 yo with good/equivalent skillset also ? Because I did for the past 2-3 seasons and the difference is huge.

I dont doubt your facts its just that the picture I see is different, maybe I am wrong maybe I am not

Yeah, but the point stands - why should they be able to have a chance to catch up?

The whole situation is rather balanced now. 18 year olds will still be favored, and if there's 19yolds that cant be cought up to it isn't a bad thing.

Buffing 18 year olds would just make 95% of 19 year olds worthless again.

heres a link from Training Simulator... Both Samples result here here gathere after their U21 Stint (22 yo)... You are correct there Sir that 19 Yo have the upper hand but... we have not taken yet into account the Youth Trainer's contribution here... 18 Yo will get 2 Seasons while 19 yo will only get 1...

https://i.imgur.com/1PGGJuX.png



But I also Agree with you sir that the Max TSP of a 19 Yo Draftee should not be the Max TSP of 18 Yo +20 heres a link to my response on the other thread (Increasing 19 y.o. draftees' max starting skill to 9) support you:
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I Quote:

the Starting TSP of the 19 y/os Draftees... could be the:

raise the Minimum Starting TSP to the Median of the Fully Trained 18 y/os turning 19 Rause the Maximum starting TSP to the Lowest Starting TSP of the Top 50% of the Season's Draft Class + 15 Skill points

If an error occurs reciprocate

19 yo Draftees Skills can be upto 9s but TSP should not exceed Top 18 yo TSP + 15

Last edited by Bro_Khen at 9/2/2021 11:17:35 PM

Yeah, but you still fail to answer my question.

Why should they be able to catch up?

The preference comes to 18 year olds, not because they're faster to train, but from them being a more consistent way of training.

You seem to be forgetting, that the floor of the 19 year olds, hasn't been changed. So when you draft 19yo players you can still get a 19yo with the skills of an 18yo.

And the fact that you're making this case without having the numbers of future average 19yo TSP is outrageous.

I agree. I had a manager fire a 19yr old Superstar just because he was 19. The dude had good starting skills. His only flaw was that he was 19.

Yes, that was exactly the main point of this change.

You draft 19yo players with a bigger risk - either it's complete garbage, or it's better than 18yo. And it's not even a real 50/50, since most of the 19yo will still be worse than 18yo.

Having 5 uncatchable 19yo per draft is completely fine.

And a free alternative? Do you even comprehend what you're saying? Those 19y olds will cost a lot more than the 18 year olds.

And competetiveness? Excuse me? The market is empty as hell, and even garbage 22yolds cost 1kk+. The more people train, the better for the competetive aspect of the game.

Last edited by Kritulys at 9/3/2021 7:17:10 AM