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75076.33 in reply to 75076.32
Date: 2/26/2009 8:42:55 AM
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Kc, training a player naman is not sacrificing as is.

What I meant by molding a player is for example have a profi JS, profi OD, tapos promi inside skills. Meaning, sa lahat ng training na gagawin mo for the next few seasons, kasama ung player na un. I will not be sacrificing if he can be your star player for years to come and help you win games, is it?

About sa minutes, sa simula pa lang ng training, ginagawa na yan. ~_~

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75076.34 in reply to 75076.33
Date: 2/26/2009 9:11:49 AM
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Sige halimbawa a team has 2 real good young guard trainees and is training them now. So malakas ang outside game nya. In comparison, his inside game is very weak. This draft he gets a 5 star PF na ok idevelop. What should this manager do now?


Off topic: Right now, I wouldn't mind voting for JSmoove kasi si Katcha naman ang GM natin so even if he is not the U21 manager, I am sure he will still play a major role for us.

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75076.35 in reply to 75076.34
Date: 2/26/2009 9:30:05 AM
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Post the stats of the PF sa transfer thread, find a buyer who will train the PF, tapos they can talk about how much ung minimum price, and what day and time itransfer.

Timing is important kc merong time na onti ung online users, so less kalaban sa bids, and to make sure that the buyer is online at that time.

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75076.36 in reply to 75076.35
Date: 2/26/2009 9:46:21 AM
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@Devastator

Curious lang ako, where do you spend your money? hehe. Kasi i can see you have very good back court players already, but i dont see you spending much on players. So san napupunta pera mo? Even if you focus train, supposedly may mabibili ka parin na good front court player with a salary of around 12k-15k.


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75076.37 in reply to 75076.36
Date: 2/26/2009 9:58:32 AM
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Stadium? Malaki kc gap ng top teams saken before, so I made an effort na habulin ung capacity. Kc if I want to compete with them, dapat na I should be at par with them sa revenues.

EDIT:

message wasn't for me pala. :p

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75076.38 in reply to 75076.36
Date: 2/26/2009 10:07:23 AM
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Arena improvements. Max scouting.

I estimate na profit margin ko this season is around 50k/week not counting cup bonuses and arena constructions. Di rin naman ako mabenta ng top notch players.

This season i will save for a level 7 trainer. tsaka as much as possible ayoko muna bumili ng players na over 10k ang sweldo. Next season pag nabenta si Pinongan tsaka ako bibili ng player na over 10k ang sweldo kasi alam ko na kaya na ng economy ko magbayad ng ganun kamahal.

Last edited by Devastator at 2/26/2009 10:13:17 AM

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75076.39 in reply to 75076.35
Date: 2/26/2009 10:16:07 AM
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Post the stats of the PF sa transfer thread, find a buyer who will train the PF, tapos they can talk about how much ung minimum price, and what day and time itransfer.

Timing is important kc merong time na onti ung online users, so less kalaban sa bids, and to make sure that the buyer is online at that time.


So paano na yung kawawang manager? Mahina pa rin ang inside game nya.

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75076.40 in reply to 75076.39
Date: 2/26/2009 10:25:34 AM
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Why?

Look, if he has an 18 year old player na multiskill, he can sell it for potentially a million. This is an 18 year old with respectable skills at most. With that money that he gets for selling a player he can buy a slightly older player, like 19-20 with proficient- prominent inside skills for the same price.

The manager with the young guards can still continue training them, will get a stronger frontcourt player, his draftee could potentially end up in the u 21 as well, and buyer gets a trainee.

Win-win for both managers and the NT.

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75076.41 in reply to 75076.40
Date: 2/26/2009 11:41:54 AM
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Good. Ü

That's what I wanted to hear but I still want the candidates to practice what they preach. We are looking for managers who will be dedicated in training those with potentials. Why not start with yourselves? If JSmoove says we just need 10 managers, 9 na lang kasi I would assume na he would be one of them. The same with Katcha, Aldo and Norman. And me I guess.

Your thoughts candidates?


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75076.42 in reply to 75076.41
Date: 2/26/2009 12:08:09 PM
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It depends on the situation Devs...

If you're gonna ask me whether if I focus train one position... that would be no problem for the NT, but it would be a problem for the system that i program on my club team.

The difference between sa club and sa NT, sa NT, you pick the best filipino players then compete with the best talent from the other country, while at the same time make them better without disrupting any program. And the good thing about NT players is that the training is focused solely on them.

Wherein, in the club teams, the training is solely focused on the team. that's my program in team polydozel. I don't get any players that would develop every week, mayroong maiiwan kaya kelangan pagpantay-pantayin sila. Kapag may maiiwan na player, maiiwan ang buong team. So i don't think na ang gagawin sa NT ay kelangan gagawin ko din sa team ko.

Bottom line: There are other ways for greatness without disrupting both parties... most especially if those two parties have distinctions in their own processes


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75076.43 in reply to 75076.42
Date: 2/27/2009 12:20:13 AM
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Singit lang ako. Pasensya na.

Medyo marami-rami na rin yung discussion sa development ng NT at U21 players. It would seem that the aspiring national coaches prioritize development of the players above anything else - as if they are the ones training the players themselves.

With the right build and strategy, one can take a team to great success. BS ba? I started week 5 sa season 7 with my team. From my initial roster, nag-formulate ako ng build plan for my team. Tinanggal ko yung players na hindi fit sa build at pa-isaisa, bumili ako ng fit na player with my weekly savings. I focused on my team strength lang. Strategy-wise, I followed the tactics hint from the rules section: slow the game down if the opponent has good offense. Result? I won my league and got promoted to Division III. I topped the elimination round of the TDP League and eventually won the playoffs against 2 PPL teams and one from Div. II. At best, I get Inept(high) sa offensive at rebounding ratings at awful(high) sa OF pero ang defense ko mababa na ang mediocre(medium). I try to limit the opponent to less than 85 attempts lang. Maski bano sa offense team ko, at the buzzer ako ang panalo.

Ano point ko? I think we can design a build for our NT and U21 teams capitalizing on what we have (rather than wish for the right training from other players). Sometime last December, I suggested to the NT coach to try slow tactics versus strong countries. I even illustrated my point using computations but it seems masyado tayo in love sa fast tactics (look inside). Kung mataas ang offense rating ng kalaban, if you give them 90+ attempts - delikado ka na.

For the candidates, ano ang build plan ninyo? Paki-explain kung paano magiging effective yung build plan mo against other NT/U21 opponents (ex. USA U21 prominent OS, strong ID; Netherland U21 prolific IS, proficient PD, prolific ID; etc.).

Salamat.


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