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JR, PG/SG, lvl 9

18yo American to average JR
20yo American to respectable JS

JS, team, lvl 9

22 SG to respectable JS
30 SF to respectable JS
21 C/PF to mediocre JS

Training pressure, level 9, PG/SG.

20 yo PG to strong outside defense
20 yo SG to strong outside defense

Passing, level 9, PG/SG

18 yo to strong passing
21 yo to respectable passing
21 yo to respectable passing

JS, Lvl. 9, PG/SG

18yo American to inept JS
19yo American to strong JS
19yo Italian to proficient JS
21yo American to prominent JS

Training Inside Defense, Lvl 8 trainer, PF/C

20 yo American PF to awful ID
21 yo American C to prolific ID

For anyone who may be interested...

An obvious problem with what's being reported in this thread is that we can't really figure out training speed by looking only at the pops. We need to know what *didn't* pop as well. With that piece of information, we can start figuring out what the probability of a pop is, given age, trainer level, etc, etc. Unfortunately, figuring this out for any one person is hard because we have to wait a long time to accumulate enough data, and even then, we only know for the ages/potentials/etc of our own training.

So, here's what I propose. I'm going to start compiling training data for anyone who's interested. If we get enough people involved, we should very quickly be able to get some real results. With enough trainees, we can regress training factors against results and figure out how much age really matters? When do players hit their potential cap? Does height really matter that much?

What do you get? I will send all my results to everyone who participates. If you're interested, shoot me a BB-mail and I'll send a list of the info I need. A caveat, I will need age, height and potential as well as their current ratings. I don't ask for names, but height/age do make the players identifiable. I won't disclose this, but if you'd rather not tell me, no need to participate!

edit: I'm moving this to the other thread to hopefully build on the results they've gathered so far.

Last edited by wozzvt at 5/30/2008 11:43:55 AM

This is just meant to be a bragging thread, there's no other quantifiable purpose for it.

We already have a training analysis thread here:

(381.1)

Fair enough, although I'm less interested in the effect of training type, and more about how substantial the differences are between trainees. So, rather than assuming 18/19 yo trainees, actually figuring out how much it slows down with age (when is it no longer worth training?), what the optimal height is for training different skills, when potential starts to impact training, etc. I haven't read that entire thread, but maybe you have the data to address this already.

Rebounding, C/PF, lvl 9

19yo Italian to prominent RB
21yo American to sensational RB
22yo American to prolific RB and prolific IS