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Testing the "empty lineup prevention" code in Private League matches

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259887.333 in reply to 259887.330
Date: 2/23/2015 4:15:55 PM
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I'm not trying to change your mind....never was.
Fair enough. You have your views and I have mine, and we are each steadfast in what we see.

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Date: 2/24/2015 4:28:44 AM
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OK aside from the fact that from S26 and earlier it looks like nearly all blanks for Germany, so it would be 3 seasons (plus this one) and not 5 as you claimed -irrespective of how your scouting abilities are- but the game I linked is the first I see where a team manages to play 11 players without using blanks, without having injuries and without having players fouling out.

Can you or anybody else provide more evidence (possibly from this season, so we don't have to speculate whether the manager used or not blanks at one or 2 positions) that it's still possible to field 11 or 12 players? I think many people, me included, assume that you can't play 11 players unless you have either injuries or players ejected. I would be very interested in understanding how that happens.

In the game I linked, Germany had 5 players manning the PF and C positions and Jagermeister, Broszeit and Dieckhoff all logged minutes at both PF and C positions. How do you achieve this if you fill all the depth chart slots?

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259887.335 in reply to 259887.334
Date: 2/24/2015 9:08:15 AM
Nitra Corgons
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After i saw few arguments let me throw one more:) To all of you defending this prevention code implementing while using argument: with BLU managers didnt have the responsibility and didnt manage teams just let ingame misteake deal it for them. To all of you.. Is current system when you only need to set 3 starters and rest is picked by someone for you ok? Is this coaching or managing team? Why there are blank starter positions picked the best possible way now??? Why the blank positions aint picked randomly?? Wouldnt that be better or more fair? So please stop making this hybrid solution masterpiece..
Again i will repeat it. I am totally ok with this BLU prevention code implementing. I just dont like that i have no option to pick the way i use my backup players. I want to play my deep roster as full as possible! This is something that is normal in real life and should be normal in this game, at least in faster paced tactics.
To that German thing. It were Germans who discovered BLU in NT way and was succesfully used by many managers after that. It was f.ex. manager of team ESV LAIM who succesfully used it on club field. Even though he played BLU i have beaten him with regular team setup in B3 semis in season 13.. Just to notice when BLU was discovered and proving i like the idea of romoving BLU.



Last edited by LA-zajino at 2/24/2015 9:09:32 AM

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Date: 2/24/2015 10:04:23 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Comparision (first two days of World championships):
Season 28 - Season 30
games: 12 - 12
total players: 264 - 249
avg players per game: 11,0 - 10,4
players with 40+ minutes: 4 (2%) - 29 (12%)
players with 35-40 mins: 18 (7%) - 49 (20%)
average result difference: 14 pts - 14 pts

That makes 23% increase in players who play 35+ minutes!
We have about 5% decrease in number of players involved in game.



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Date: 2/24/2015 3:58:45 PM
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You have a game from this season where that was accomplished, Nachtmahr?

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Date: 2/25/2015 12:10:46 PM
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Who can we talk to as regards of addressing the unwanted side effects of this change again?

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Date: 2/25/2015 1:22:08 PM
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Note that all the players in that Germany team played both at C and PF in the first half of the game (Jagermeister in particular played all his 3-4 minutes in the first half I think).

I'm not an expert on LCD but I don't think the coach can pick a reserve to play and even if he can, you'd have to select 3 players as backup/reserve (see below, Grund/Diekhoff/Broszeit/Jagermeister all playing at C).

Germany players manning the PF position:
Gensberger (starter played only at PF), Broszeit, Diekhoff

Germany players manning the C position:
Grund (starter played only at C), Diekhoff, Broszeit, Jagermeister

When the 4th player at C, Jagermeister, came in during the second quarter Grund had 1 foul and Diekhoff/Broszeit either 0 or 1. No injuries.

The game is here: (30609)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/25/2015 1:44:39 PM