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158829.34 in reply to 158829.1
Date: 10/11/2010 4:40:18 PM
MightyMice
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there is something I would like to add to my program.

As you know, scouting and players growth is on top of my priorities with solid game planning and execution. The second depends on several factors, including opponents, the first is related to managers habits, injuries, but is very closely related to scouts work.

The goal I would then set to my team and me would be to have a major increase in players skills. The best and only measure I can adopt now is again based on salary (although you can have better players at lower salaries, see Centers with low SB for instance). On the basis of current analysis, targets at the end of mandate (so beginning S16) are:

Guards (PG+SG): at least two at 30K$, four over 15K$ (today: 1 at 16K$ + 1 at 19K$ (PG))
Centers: at least two at 40K$, four at 30K$ (today: 1 at 35K$)

I don't set PF/SF's as I want to better understand how they are, but it would deserve some further analysis as they are a bit more complicated.

Of course, this is not to make their owners to have some headache, but to deliver great players.


Last edited by GM-BlackMouse at 10/11/2010 4:40:59 PM

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158829.36 in reply to 158829.35
Date: 10/12/2010 1:52:54 AM
MightyMice
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I don't set PF/SF's as I want to better understand how they are, but it would deserve some further analysis as they are a bit more complicated.


It would be easier if you set the criteria based on playmakers, wingmen and post players...


at this moment, criteria can be based on salaries only. I don't know whether 80% of PG's is trained almost only in PA and 1v1, or Centers in SB, or SFs in 1v1 for wingers. I experienced that there are patterns in the countries: in Italy for instance we don't love to train much JR on SG's (above certain limits at least) or SB for Centers (not a pity here) or RB for SF's.

I could set them only when having had a look at dominant skills, as there is no way to rebuild skills from salaries.

Unless your question was different and I haven't caught it. In this case, please clarify and I will answer.

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158829.38 in reply to 158829.36
Date: 10/12/2010 2:28:55 AM
GinaKia
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can you tell me how you train your Fabrizio?

World
Ranks #1 in PF
Ranks #1 in PF / game

:-)

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158829.40 in reply to 158829.37
Date: 10/12/2010 5:50:08 AM
MightyMice
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No that's not the point. I meant that when you set your target for players, you can list them as playmakers, wingmen and post players. Because I've found that's the easiest classification :-D


it's easy to set targets for two roles: SG's and C's. They are mostly dependent on a short subset of key skills, and you can better focus on them.

About PG's you have a quite more complex combination of skills, so it is not unlikely that an U21 PG could float between PG and SG (Scalambrieri did), depending on his development path. So, although my own team succeeded with three PG's on the field (I do think it is a great performance multiplier), I could decide to have even a so-called SG on the field (may be missing one level in PA to be back to PG classification, but great in R&G in the case).

About PF's, you should consider the effect of JS and OD. However, in this case too you could fluctuate between C and PF classification: you could decide to anticipate ID and RB to have better primaries (may with 4/5 in OD and JS), then push shooting to increase both IS and JS and have your PF.

About SF's, well, there are too many variables to set values right now, as I don't know how SF are considered by Malaysian trainers. In Italy elections 20% of posts are about "ideal" SF!

If I would bet, I would expect to them too an increase of salary of about 30-40% for top 4-5 players, however this is a tricky comparison.

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158829.41 in reply to 158829.38
Date: 10/12/2010 8:53:50 AM
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can you tell me how you train your Fabrizio?

World
Ranks #1 in PF
Ranks #1 in PF / game

:-)

Look at BlackMouse roster...

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/12/2010 8:54:30 AM

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158829.42 in reply to 158829.38
Date: 10/12/2010 10:30:47 AM
MightyMice
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can you tell me how you train your Fabrizio?

World
Ranks #1 in PF
Ranks #1 in PF / game

:-)


Lisanti you mean?

he gave full freedom to his dark side, leaving his Mr Hyde free to kill!

simply, fouled out (as hundreds of other players) having played 47min 45sec in the first match of the season, against a solid opponent, in a day where the whole team underperformed. bad boy! Can you remember Detroit Pistons in 80's? They would be scared!!!

however, you can see how he is now (on sale, skills are visible). They (including decimals) are a careful balancing around is almost-hit potential. He has also a +1 OD, a natural tendence to be fouly (see first seasons), but a very effective PG in my last few seasons. I am selling him as I need to add higher potential players better characterized as SG and with higher potential to try to survive in the most competitive II series conference in Italy

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158829.44 in reply to 158829.43
Date: 10/12/2010 5:13:03 PM
MightyMice
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Lol he doesn't seem to bad last season. Maybe the guy he matched up against was a guy with pretty weak physical attribute... Either it still looks cool to get the first in the wolrd rankings :-D


it is the first time ever I have a top-of-world ranked player!!

it was a crazy match (look MR's vs actual shooting %). And this is was the best result ^^ Not a great season, a deep review of roster is ongoing, it is somehow expected, although not so match (too bad conference). And Lisanti was probably upset with me, who knows? ;)

apart of joking, he was a pillar of my last promotion, but this time failed, overwhelmed with the team. He will have a new chance next Thu in Cup

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