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161502.34 in reply to 161502.33
Date: 10/18/2010 5:46:55 PM
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If selling prices drop, buying prices also drop

Let's say that the market value of the players drop by the half
half of 8 milion is 4 milion
half of 1.5 milion is 750k

If a top player drop his value,his manager will however have enough value to act on the market.What kind of player you can buy with 750k,instead?And the drop in the middle-level players market is also stronger,because there are much much more mid-level players than top players,so for supply and demand economic theory,the drop will be much more harsher for that category of players than for top players.

They took a risk when they started training for the market.

This is a pretty stupid statement.I can start training players to have them in my team in the future,and then I can change my plans and have to sell them because I start a rebuilding process or I decide to maintain in the my team a player instead of another.
Every player can go on the market,no matter what were the starting training plans of his managers,so the risk should be the fact of training players?Your logic seems to me pretty weak,man



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161502.37 in reply to 161502.34
Date: 10/18/2010 6:17:23 PM
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161502.38 in reply to 161502.37
Date: 10/18/2010 6:27:56 PM
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Let's try to have a clean discussion, please.
People who is not interested in the thread are not forced to read it or take part in the debate


So you just want a black and white answer? This is wrong or this is correct? There's no room for someone who thinks "This discussion is futile but will nonetheless be repeated a hundred times?"

And what do you mean by "clean"? I didn't post anything that would be commonly deemed offensive?

And what do you mean by interest? I read all 30+ posts in here. That doesn't convey interest?

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From: Marot

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161502.39 in reply to 161502.33
Date: 10/18/2010 6:48:54 PM
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Well, you have a different point of view about how to use the transfer list, for example(just an example, nothing personal) your team, the only reference is this:

You sold for: 5 935 100
Youd bought for: 10 500 700

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-4,565 600

I can understand you like the prices are lower, since you buy more than sell. Also you are a manager that made only a few transactions so you dont really care about the TL since is not important for you.


But for managers who have an acurate timing of the transfer list, who made some money from their good training are really worried about the transfer list. All those managers who are good at training and made good profits, because they always trained right, having +5M-10M in benefits on their transactions are at least now disappointed to see how low is that TL.

I made on the past, 6,5M of benefit from the TL, but now i find the TL is so ridiculous low than i prefer to keep my players than selling for nothing.


PD1(In general question): Why the FA are still on the TL?...


PD2: You also give frequently your PoV about TL, but i find you used it only a few times, have you scout it every week? Probably not.


PD3: You say there is no discussion since you think your ''truth'' is the good one(so no motive to argue), but on the economy there isnt only 1 truth, you should know that if you know a bit about economy :)

Last edited by Marot at 10/18/2010 6:57:57 PM

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161502.40 in reply to 161502.38
Date: 10/18/2010 6:59:14 PM
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161502.41 in reply to 161502.34
Date: 10/18/2010 7:42:51 PM
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the drop will be much more harsher for that category of players than for top players.
Here you said it yourself. Because people keep training, the middle class get more populated, hence more players on the market -> prices drop. I check the market constantly and the all around players still go for good money. It's the unbalanced players that have dropped considerably in price.
I can start training players to have them in my team in the future,and then I can change my plans and have to sell them because I start a rebuilding process or I decide to maintain in the my team a player instead of another.
How is my statement stupid. If a team starts to train a player for their own team, then what is there to complain about. Training an all around player will net you good money anyway, any team can start rebuilding. You can't make people pay you more money just because you think now is the best time to rebuild. How strong of a logic is that?

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161502.42 in reply to 161502.39
Date: 10/18/2010 8:05:08 PM
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No I like the prices lower because it effectivly stops daytrading. Like I said good trainers still make their money. I browse the transferlist for 3 hours after every 2-3 days + I keep checking interesting players daily. Browsing TL is the only way to catch cheaters btw.
Are my transfers the only indicator of how active I am browsing TL? I despise daytrading, I think it's wrong (should not be a part of this game) and that's why I don't do it. I upgrade my players instead of trying to fish some cash out of the "not so informed" users.
Being a team that started on Season3, you have actually no players to show for the time you have spent in this game. It seems to me you are on your way down instead of going up. Perhaps you should use your + balance you have gathered playing on the TL? Or have you spent it on monoskill players upkeep. How is that for a shallow view of your actions?

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161502.43 in reply to 161502.42
Date: 10/18/2010 9:22:07 PM
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Being a team that started on Season3, you have actually no players to show for the time you have spent in this game. It seems to me you are on your way down instead of going up. Perhaps you should use your + balance you have gathered playing on the TL? Or have you spent it on monoskill players upkeep. How is that for a shallow view of your actions?


Sorry, but we are talking about economy, not about my training ยก. Plus if you ''upgrated'' your players i also dont see any interesting player(with respect for your players). Probably we play different ''games(oh i gotta love this phrase when i read it before on some topics...).

And yes, the TL is low, but what is worst its uncontrolled. Of course i will sell my PG coz i am a good trainer like i did with 1 Eeste guy(i dont remember the name.. but now is on their NT) but the TL is not well-regulated and that is what worry me...


Last edited by Marot at 10/18/2010 9:23:07 PM

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161502.44 in reply to 161502.43
Date: 10/18/2010 9:53:22 PM
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I think Kukoc has made a very valuble point. It seems as if the people most upset with the down turn in the economy are those who rely most heavily on it, 'day traders'. As has been stated by several others the BB economy is a part of the game in which you need to do some quality planning. Players are like stocks and have a fluctuating price based on supply and demand. The fact of the matter is that day traders are going to be the people who suffer the most from such an economy as they are likely stuck with high priced mono-skilled players who have taken tremendous hits to their market value. Buy low sell high has hit a bit of a stumbling block, it happens and is part of the risk people choosing to play the game that way take. Should we pity them?? Not a chance!!

Teams such as mine are going to be just fine. I have trained 80% of my players and built them so thet they have retained value. The players that I have purchased have been very calculated buys, and I am certain that they will fetch similar to what I purchased them for, if not more. Being a team that promoted thru the ranks very quickly, I can assure you that the method I have used works. Training from within is a proven theory that is about to pay off in the current BB economy, I suspect this is a big part of the BB's plan. This is a mangement stratagy game not a game where those who capitalize(take advantage of) the market should be rewarded.

FTW I am currently training bigs and realize that one of my current centers is worth a very low price on the market. Becasue of that I will choose not to sell him, it is really quite simple. And yes there is a very decent chance that I will be demoted back down to division II, but I have built in such a way that it will not crush my team.

Plan and develop a different stratagy that includes quality players and you will all be just fine!!

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