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memphis best players r rudy gay, mark gasol, oj mayo & zach randolph the first 3 were trained by memphis & rudy gay was a draft pick & marc gasol played his whole career here your example proves my point

OJ Mayo, was a draft from Minnesota ;) Marc Gasol isn't a Laker, Rudy gay a Rocket draft pick, and as you noticed right Randolph was drafted by the Trail Blazers. Memphis wasn't really a top team, so get early picks, who are also raising there chanche here to get a trainable player, but they chossed to get player from outside teams instead. Those player are like the bought player from spanish third league team here, and the NBA have less player to choose from since most player who having the quality to play there already sign up at there draft. So far less option to trade, who are also more complicated then here.

I like this draft since he is 4 years ago, NBA team can train every playerso they should now be Franchise players or starters at the team who drafted then.

Lets look at his draft, there was overall 12 trades out of 28 players. In first round. I count three franchise player for the team with the Draft rights, which is actually not a bad value. This would mean 1-2 or two in a BB league.

1. Rose - prooves your point
2. Beasley a heat, dont think so
4. Westbrook, your point
5. Love, not a Memphis player right there was a "spanish" player from Memphis(3) where they are exchanged
6. Glinnari - not a New York Franchise player, he is in Italy now
7. Gordan - not a Clipper, but at least Franchise guy quality what you couldn't say about lot of the later picks


Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/12/2012 2:37:05 AM

memphis best players r rudy gay, mark gasol, oj mayo & zach randolph the first 3 were trained by memphis & rudy gay was a draft pick & marc gasol played his whole career here your example proves my point

OJ Mayo, was a draft from Minnesota ;) Marc Gasol isn't a Laker, Rudy gay a Rocket draft pick, and as you noticed right Randolph was drafted by the Trail Blazers. Memphis wasn't really a top team, so get early picks, who are also raising there chanche here to get a trainable player, but they chossed to get player from outside teams instead. Those player are like the bought player from spanish third league team here, and the NBA have less player to choose from since most player who having the quality to play there already sign up at there draft. So far less option to trade, who are also more complicated then here.

I like this draft since he is 4 years ago, NBA team can train every playerso they should now be Franchise players or starters at the team who drafted then.

Lets look at his draft, there was overall 12 trades out of 28 players. In first round. I count three franchise player for the team with the Draft rights, which is actually not a bad value. This would mean 1-2 or two in a BB league.

1. Rose - prooves your point
2. Beasley a heat, dont think so
4. Westbrook, your point
5. Love, not a Memphis player right there was a "spanish" player from Memphis(3) where they are exchanged
6. Glinnari - not a New York Franchise player, he is in Italy now
7. Gordan - not a Clipper, but at least Franchise guy quality what you couldn't say about lot of the later picks

Galinarri is In Denver.

yes but he was drafted by New York ;) Which mean he should be there, and be a star. Since tteams don't give away there draft players and all are good enough for the NBA like Alexander. And that already in a league where all good players assign, and ain't splitted over the world to fair conditions.
Edit: A i see he is back to the NBA now in Denver ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/12/2012 2:54:36 AM

ok u are right about 1 thing being snappy wasnt nice so i aoplogise

but u r wrong totally even ur examples show how wrong u are a hilarious attemt u just shot urself in the foot

denver is a total mess i dont know what they r doing but i did only claim the vast majority

memphis best players r rudy gay, mark gasol, oj mayo & zach randolph the first 3 were trained by memphis & rudy gay was a draft pick & marc gasol played his whole career here your example proves my point

sacramento proves my point even more best players cousins & evans both home grown draft picks

yet in bb how many teams in the top leagues have their best player as their own draft pick?

& i hope this doesn't come across as snappy just really amused

Memphis.... GM Crazyeye explained, but you are wrong on Memphis, apology for that need not be there.
Sacremento does prove your point, but their record also proves your following post as being something that needed to be said.

In BB, dunno. Worth starting a poll over maybe? But in NBA... MLB, NFL, NHL, etc. etc. etc. etc.
How many homegrown players are the team's best players, a good share, but how many stay their ENTIRE careers at said team?
NBA, I can name... Kobe, Tim Duncan, Wade (ish) some people say LeBron's better, prior to this season I'd disagree.
ANyone can saty 1-6 years on a team, I don't even look at that as being a valid argument. When you've been on your team for over 7 years, and haven't left that's saying something because thats 2 contract negotiations worth of staying.

MLB... Mariano Rivera for NYY, Helton for Colorado, those are off top my head... Most are more old-school time periods.

NHL .... Brodeur, Crosby (so far)

You see my point... If it's not realistic in real life... how can you quantify it as being something that should be realistic in a fictious simulator game?

i thing that complicates things is the draft day trades cause i admit when guys have played their whole career for the one team u do kind of assume they were drafted by that team like kobe but when u dig they werent

the 2008 draft was very prone to that with 30/60 of the draftees either being a traded draft pick (before the draft) or a draft day trade

but whatever i will stick with 2008 here is all the lottery picks

1 rose - proof
2 beasley - traded but good enough to train if he wasnt nuts
3 oj - draft day trade - ddt for love - good enough to start ill call this tier two proof - ttp
4 westbrook proof
5 love - ddt for oj - ttp
6 gallinari - fail
7 gordon - was fine traded so ttp
8 alexander - fail
9 augustin hey its charlotte
10 lopez - proof
11 bayless ddt for rush fail but close
12 thompson - proof
13 rush - ddt for bayless fail
14 randolph - fail

so 2008 isnt the greatest draft but of the top 16
4 are starters on their team and 3 real stars
3 are stars on other teams
4 were fails
beasley, augustine & bayless r all debatable

7 stars from 14 picks in 1 draft

ever seen that in bb? nah

some good points

im not saying they have 2 stay their whole career with the same team

just that draft picks should be good enough to keep & train not fire the same day u see them like is the case right now for 90%+++

some good points

im not saying they have 2 stay their whole career with the same team

just that draft picks should be good enough to keep & train not fire the same day u see them like is the case right now for 90%+++

Yeah. That, I can agree with 100%

some good points

im not saying they have 2 stay their whole career with the same team

just that draft picks should be good enough to keep & train not fire the same day u see them like is the case right now for 90%+++

in this case you need more training spot, instead of better draft. Since else still the best people would be choosen.

Or you make a uniform draft, which makes traded obsolent, since all player look the same.

#6 you have as a fail... even though NY did nothing with him except package him in trade for Carmello.

In Denver, he is the most crucial player to their winning. If you look at their record when he starts, vs when he doesn't.
They'll rave Ty Lawson, and Faried, yadda. but Gallinari is the actual one whom defends the 2, 3, 4 positions, hits perimeter shots, drives the lane, passes decent, rebounds decent, and hits FTs. He leads to their success more than any other single player on Denver.

So I'll say the fail there, is on the NY coaching rather than the player himself. Gallinari has been more successful than Eric Gordon, he just does it in such a way where he's a pippen to the team's jordan.

Randolph... Did well in Memphis... Randolph in fact does better than Mayo in memphis.

And Jason Thompson....I'd like better production for him to be considered "proof" when Gallinari whom is a "fail" puts up better production

Edit: I realize in hindsight I'm slightly off topic factoring in skill of people as well. Sorry.

Last edited by LBJisaCancer at 7/12/2012 3:08:10 AM

I don't understand your points here. The BB draft and NBA draft are completely different things. One is focused on trainees, the other is focused on getting a player that can help you right away. I'm pretty sure we can find atleast one divV league, where atleast 7 picks are starters right away.
I'm pretty sure managers like to see the up arrows on their players, if you get complete players from draft, the training should be toned down to minimal. That means, players receive a pop per season. Currently, even if you get a good pick, you still have to train him properly, for him to produce. A lot better than just getting complete player like D.Rose from draft.
Also you should not look at it in a way NBA draft = 1 BB league draft, but NBA draft = whole BB draft. Sure there are no DivI starters in BB draft, but there are more potential and improving players for sure.