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236987.34 in reply to 236987.33
Date: 3/11/2013 11:57:46 PM
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You never know with my team...anything is possible.

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Date: 3/12/2013 8:02:18 AM
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If you could get anything from my games I played Base almost exclusively last season, perhaps there is a hidden nugget of knowledge somewhere in there I missed completely.

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Date: 3/12/2013 1:26:32 PM
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Maybe you guys can continue the study when you join us up here next season?

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Date: 3/12/2013 3:23:54 PM
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i am president of the I Hate the Base Offense. we meet on Wednesday evenings. the topic this week, like every week, is "What good is the base offense?"

all the research reports that have been given -- by me -- say the same thing: the base offense does nothing well. it has no character, no "flavor", no color. i have no idea what sort of player, much less team, would benefit from the offense.

i welcome opposing viewpoints.

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236987.38 in reply to 236987.37
Date: 3/12/2013 3:40:08 PM
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I honestly think the alternative to the dominant Look Inside is a good Princeton team. The problem is that in order to build the right team for Princeton you'd have to train each player because the right type of bigs (and guards for that matter) just don't exist on the transfer market. By the time you finished building the team your original rookies would be almost ready to retire... definitely not worth the effort.

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236987.39 in reply to 236987.38
Date: 3/12/2013 5:08:30 PM
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I don't think Princeton is the answer. Even when I play guard/SF types in PF with princeton, they still take useless shots and I lose 90-60.

If any team will work with base offense it's mine, my guards are basically 15s in every offensive skill except JR (JS, DV, IS). So I might train some JR this season I dunno about buying different bigs, right now I just have TL filler junkers on the cheap.

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236987.40 in reply to 236987.38
Date: 3/12/2013 5:50:41 PM
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I honestly think the alternative to the dominant Look Inside is a good Princeton team. The problem is that in order to build the right team for Princeton you'd have to train each player because the right type of bigs (and guards for that matter) just don't exist on the transfer market. By the time you finished building the team your original rookies would be almost ready to retire... definitely not worth the effort.


I think (and certainly hope) that you can scrape by with more run-of-the-mill guards for the Princeton. Training the big men is definitely where the challenge lies, and you pretty much have to do them from scratch since there's not exactly a glut of 6'8+ guys trained as guards from 18-21 who still have potential to pick up the necessary inside training.

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Date: 3/12/2013 5:55:12 PM
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The thing with the guards is that in my plan I was going to try running a successful 2-3 zone at the same time. That would mean shot blocking on all my players, and to allow my bigs to be affordable I as going to sacrifice inside shot. So I'd end up with guards that have shot blocking and jump range and bigs that had high shot blocking instead of inside shot and were fantastic passers and decent shooters.

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Date: 3/12/2013 6:09:40 PM
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The thing with the guards is that in my plan I was going to try running a successful 2-3 zone at the same time. That would mean shot blocking on all my players, and to allow my bigs to be affordable I as going to sacrifice inside shot. So I'd end up with guards that have shot blocking and jump range and bigs that had high shot blocking instead of inside shot and were fantastic passers and decent shooters.


Yep, if you're going to pair it with the 2-3 then it definitely would require special guards as well. It would depend on how high shotblocking you're aiming for, too - if it's just in the high single digits range you may be fortunate enough to find some of the guys who are normally "overtrained" in 1 on 1 that have highish natural SB and maybe just fix their OD and add JR and passing.

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Date: 3/12/2013 6:11:42 PM
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It would definitely require a team with deep pockets to grab the right kind of players and afford to train those kind of bigs.

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Date: 3/12/2013 6:18:59 PM
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I think the key in Princeton is having bigs (especially the C) who can pass well. In look inside we force our guards to have higher passing than JS so they feed the bigs the ball and I feel like it needs to be the same with the bigs in a Princeton offense.

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