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Just read your bbmails you sent me and thought I'd address a few things. BB is a game, and I am not trying to attack anyone, so If I made you feel like I was attacking you I apologize. As for your actual message though, I hope you don't mind, but I felt like some of your points could be useful in this thread, such as:

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You also make assumptions about how much money BB has. How are you aware of their financial situation? Do you have any idea about the cost of developing an app? Did you know that just because you make one doesn't mean apple or android will support it? Do you know if BB made an app and were turned down? I'd be willing to place money on you don't know. If you did, you'd use that in your post.

You are right. I have no idea how much money BB has right now, but I can assume that they have at least 12,000 dollars based off of how many Utopia teams I see and how long the game has been around. Am I positive, no, but that is why it is an assumption. To me it seemed from BB-Marin's posts earlier in this thread, that money was not the issue though. I do not work in technology development and my most substantial impact on dealing with Apps is probably downloading 'Flappy Bird', so no, I do not have any knowledge on whether or not apple or android will support it. I think this is a good thing to bring up though, so kudos to you.

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One of the things BB does specifically is make sure you don't have to be on all the time. There are literally two days in a row where you don't need to do anything. From 645pm eastern time on Saturday to 645 on Tuesday you don't need to get on BB because nothing except updates happen. There is no training or games or scrimmages in that time. If you'd like to suggest that BB changes the weekly schedule, that is one thing, but saying the game is demanding is just untrue.

You are mistaken on this point. I'm not sure how much you follow Canada's NT and U21 NT, but I, along with many other users take part in planning for USA NT games which occur on monday. I coach the U21 NT and the time period that you listed as "You don't even have to log on", is actually when I tend to log on the most. I run three teams, which I guess you could say that it is my fault for making myself run three teams, but there is always something you can do on BB any day of the week. An App would be nice for these instances when I am out of my house with friends/family and just want to do a quick checkup on something, as I will have my phone with me, but not a laptop or computer. We can agree to disagree though, if you feel differently.

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People have many view points and when you post something, especially when you include a poll, you are begging for people to weigh in and you will get a variety of opinions. That's the point. It's a forum. For discussion!!

I realize. That is why you posted arguing why there shouldn't be one and then I posted saying why I disagreed and why there should be one. Discussion. I was curious to see how long you have been playing BB, because I feel like that is also a factor and noticed that this is your first season. I'm not sure if you have played BB in the past and this is just your new account but managers like Isaiah have been playing longer than you or I it seems (Isaiah since season 10 if I remember correctly, but I'm not 100% sure), and BB takes a toll on you after awhile, from what all the prominent USA managers have been saying that are oldies on BB. Many of them also suggested that a BB App would make things easier and help them stick around longer.

Once again, I apologize if you felt like I was attacking you, or if you feel like this post is an attack as well, but hopefully we can get off on a better foot now. I do appreciate your opinion and I feel like you made some valid points that BB should consider before making an App for sure.

regarding point #1
i am willing to pay for a BB app, but a free one never hurts

point#2
agree with ebw that there is always something going on in BB 24/7. You can bid on players, sell your players,analyze players and teams , build your arena, post in forums, scout your next opponent, or if your in a private league then you have additional games, aside from following the u21 and the NT games.
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I refrained from making any ridiculous ccomments about your post, and I'm glad I did. EBW 's comments were spot on. Thanks EBW.

As for your comment about the younger crowd, it's just knowledge of how things work and knowing that laptops won't last forever. More and more users are going away from laptops and are using ipads, tablets, cell phones, etc. So BB needs to be proactive and get ready for that or they will be left behind.

You are also completely right about players coming and going, and as EBW stated, that's the main reason BB needs an app. I have played BB for several years. I started during my senior year of highschool, played all the way through college, and now I'm married, have a full time job, working on an online financial blog, and also starting my own company with a friend. That's a hell of a lot of stuff going on. And to top it off, I don't even have a laptop anymore because I can do everything through a smartphone or tablet. Now, I would love to continue playing BB because it gives me a little bit of entertainment during my few minutes of downtime throughout the day, but not being mobile friendly really takes away from the entertainment aspect. In a way, it's kind of a burden to set a lineup on my phone.

Now, I respect your thoughts and opinions but as a business man myself, BB needs to find a way to keep people logging in despite having to be sitting down on a laptop.

You don't need a laptop.

Sent from my iPhone

I know you don't but using the Web browser on a phone or tablet is not very user friendly. An app is to make things easier and quicker, thus making it a lot more attractive to busy people.

Sent from my Samsung Note 3

The point was that you're not forced to get on the site. You can choose to get on and that is something different all together. With 70 hours where nothing happens it's not demanding on your time.

With 70 hours where nothing happens it's not demanding on your time.

I thought we went over this already.... If a salary and draft point update along with NT and U21 NT games are nothing, then you would be correct, but they are something. Along with the fact that the Transfer List is still active during your 70 hours of nothingness. It doesn't just pause during sunday and monday. I suppose I am not forced to set a lineup for my upcoming U21 NT game, but I would prefer it if I am able to. Once again, an App makes this process easier.

So we did go over this.

1) I responded to someone else not you. You are not part of the discussion I have with someone else. I sent you a private email for a reason. Respect the respect I showed you.

2) CHOOSING to log on doesn't mean the game MAKES you log on. There is nothing to debate here. If you CHOOSE to have 9 teams and CHOOSE to play the TL all the time, that's your CHOICE. BB only asks you to log on to set your line ups, set your training or book a scrimmage. And yes, updates ARE nothing because it requires no action from you.
You CHOOSE how much time and energy you want to devote to BB over and above the minimum requirements.

Let's agree to move on from repeating ourselves.

It is within my right to respond to anyone on here whether they started a conversation with me in the thread or not. That is why the thread gives me the option to reply to anyone individually or everyone in the thread. You did not respect me in the bbmail you sent me, you simply yelled at me and told me to get off your back, and I decided to take the high road and apologize, so I would rather not encounter another bbmail with you. I hope you don't take offense to that.

As for your whole "CHOOSING" rant. BB does not even ask you to set lineups or training. It is completely within your right to do absolutely nothing on this game ever. BB does not make you do anything. The minimum requirements for BB is simply that you log on and as long as you don't go bankrupt, you will still have a team. My point is that if you want to play the game successfully there are certain things you would like to be able to log on for.

I really am trying to see things from your point of view and be polite, but you seem to be very set on not being open minded to other managers opinion. You have been rude to not only myself but Isaiah as well, and I personally do not care for it. Isaiah has been around since season 11, and I respect him greatly, you apparently do not. In your bbmail rant that you sent me you kept saying how I didn't know your life and who I am to assume things about you. I think it is a bit hypocritical to say that and then come on here and tell someone like Isaiah who is very preoccupied with his job and family, that

You don't need a laptop.

Sent from my iPhone

In my books, that is a little rude and you should be more careful what you say to people. Just because you are happy doing everything from an iphone does not mean that other managers enjoy that method of accessing BB. Isaiah has already stated numerous times that it is a pain in his opinion to do everything on BB just on his phone. You guys can agree to disagree, but there is no reason to be disrespectful to him. Please continue being an ass to me if you want though.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 8/11/2014 3:41:29 AM