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263353.34 in reply to 263353.27
Date: 10/24/2014 7:54:59 AM
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Actually 3 pointers are more common and higher % than ever in recent years if I remember correctly.
Bill Laimbeer, a C, shot 33% from 3 for his career (same average as Jordan). Bird SF/PF had a 38% average for his career. Ainge closed at 38%, Byron Scott at 37%, Chris Mullin 38%, Mark Price >40%, Dale Ellis at >40%, Hornacek >40%, Steve Kerr >45%, Glen Rice 40%, Reggie Miller nearly 40%. More recently Nash will close at around 43% and Ray Allen at 40%.

As you can see claiming that Jordan's era was 'different' doesn't mean that Jordan was certainly not a great 3pt shooter compared to his peers. He was decent, just not great. In today's NBA he wouldn't be Josh Smith-level terrible, but pretty terrible anyways.

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263353.36 in reply to 263353.35
Date: 10/24/2014 8:15:34 AM
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No way that the shots Allen takes for Boston/Maimi etc. can be compared with the shots Kobe takes. It's like playing horse versus playing crunch.


Yes, you are completely right - good shots Allen take are more valuable than bad shots Kobe take.

Does it make Allen better player than Kobe? No it does not. But the fact you are trying to overvalue the bad shots just does not make any sense in basketball.

You should probably noticed already that volume of messages you post does not necessarily convert into the volume of balls you get. Think about it. Good shots versus bad shots. Not the same?

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263353.39 in reply to 263353.37
Date: 10/24/2014 8:33:49 AM
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What you don't understand


Think twice every time before trying to show your superiority. Smart people don't think others are stupid.

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Date: 10/24/2014 8:45:53 AM
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Much :)

But now find anywhere I said something bad about MJ or Kobe or any other volume shooter. They are great. I enjoy every aspect of their game. And even I do like their extraordinary ego. They are personalities. They are not only playing basketball. They are creating it. Basketball was not the same before MJ. And I think he is the greatest of all time. So how I can not give him credit for taking his team to 6 championships? :)

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263353.44 in reply to 263353.37
Date: 10/24/2014 10:17:49 AM
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What you don't give credit for is that somebody on the team has to make the shots and take the shots that everyone else can't get.
Why don't we all build a nice straw man and argue with him? Modern basketball is all about taking better shots and values players who can make those shots at a high percentage. If I wanted to argue the same way you do, I'd say that 90s and early '00s was just hero-ball time in full glory.
It's obvious that 'somebody on the team has to take the shots'. It's also obvious that someone shooting in the low 40s should pass the ball to any random end of the bench guy, or lucky fan to use a BB equivalent, if the guy is open. Thinking 'it's better my shot over a double or triple team at 40% chance than someone else free at 45%' is ridiculous.


Like we have any clue what his team needs from him.
Ask Shaq and how the Pistons wiped the floor with the Lakers in '04. Shaq shot 62% on 16 FGA and Kobe shot 39% on 23 FGA in the finals. I'm sure Shaq is qualified to answer your question and has in fact already said what he thought about it.

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