I'll second Saul's sentiments. It simply won't be the same around here without these two long-time classy managers. With Torakiki leaving, it leaves me as the most senior manager. That is probably true in more ways than one:-) But if we think about these two teams, both have had several great Cup runs, especially Toonces, as well as developing some very nice talent. Let me join in wishing both of them success in III.
Pappy