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I undestand your situation but I don't agree it's caused by big and small countries.
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It's caused by the different level of competition in the various countries,as we are saying in all the thread.
A country could be relatively small but however very competitive....but in BB doesn't happen unfortunately

What I suggest it's lowering gaps in attendance cap for different levels of league

What i suggest it's to lowering gaps between divisions in a same country,in a different way for the various countries.If in the X few competitive nation the difference between the incomes of I and III division is 50%,in a Y more competitive country the difference should be 30% for example,because while in the X nation the team that starts from the lower divisions can have the possibility to program their future and have "period of arrangements" while go up through the divisions and stabilized their position because of the awful competition, when they go up, still having the room to grow up;in the Y nation the teaam that starts from the lower division at the time doesn't have these possibilites,or at least can't have all the strategies available

is it normal, that game is reaching point, where NT players only kept by farms? equilibrium is OK, but this deflation is no imho. I dont see how market was wrong, when super players costed 10-15M - top tier teams were spending theyr money on players they are not capabale of training due to competition and lower tier team could actually hit jackpot after training couple of great NT capable guys.

My roster cap is closer to 500k. I just only use 200k of it.
So my point is that I could spend 500k in salaries, but I don't need to, and so I get to keep some profit each week to try and improve.

I'm not saying the economy is the same, I'm just saying that I think that there would be a way to run a team effectively and still make a profit :)

You started by IV, I started by VI.

So you mean that until you are in div 4 you make less profit than I do initially because I start in div 4?

I think we both wrote very similar suggestion. But in your I can't find which kind of income would you like to use to make differencies.
As I wrote before I think there shouldn't be any difference of formula for incomes maybe for division III or IV and lower (it doesn't mean no difference in real incomes, the team/league with better values of variables for formula would have higher incomes). Than every team in Div III and lower can compete on TL with any other team Div III team all around the world. If there is weaker Div III in some smaller country, the teams would gain less money on merchandise and TV contracts.

Hey, I was not proposing a solution, I'm nobody how could I do a thing like that! I was just trying to make people see that there's a problem... and trying to explain to people answering every post with the same sentence ("all teams in your league are in the same condition, so why whine?") that the problem is not in the league itself, it's in the market and in the impossibility to grow as a team at the same speed we grow as managers.

You started by IV, I started by VI.

So you mean that until you are in div 4 you make less profit than I do initially because I start in div 4?

Sure, one in IV earns 75k from TV contract, one in V earns 45k from contract and if one starts by IV with a 25k roster, he earns more than one of VI with a 25k roster.

That's spot on the point.

The maximum revenue you can get in Div. V or VI is far lower than the one you get in Div. IV or above BUT when you're given your first 18 players they have (almost) the same salary, it doesn't matter if you're in Div. I,II,III,IV,V or VI.

It's an easy sum to make: same expenditures for salaries but very different revenues due to your geographical position.

The point is, as it has been made before, that:

- all users in Div. I in the countries of BB: around 1500 (adjusted for bot teams in top leagues)
- users in Div. V in SPA and ITA only (taken as the two biggest countries): around 7500 (adjusted for bot teams)

Here we see the same people discussing who are in top leauges and have zero knowing of what playing in a lower league means. It'd be interesting to see BBs and GMs waive their top league team and start with a Div. V or VI team in either Spa, Ita or Fra for example. This way they'll probably realize that for 80% of the players this game is frustrating.

A possible solution? Take away the 1 promotion - 4 relegation ratio. Make it 2 and 3 and possibly restructurate the league system from 1:4 to 1:2.
This will exacerbate some players in big countries (i could well end up in Div. VII or VIII this way), but it'll create afar more dynamic game and restore the fun that has been lost in the past months - also for a relative newcomer such as myself.

My roster cap is closer to 500k. I just only use 200k of it.
So my point is that I could spend 500k in salaries, but I don't need to, and so I get to keep some profit each week to try and improve.

I'm not saying the economy is the same, I'm just saying that I think that there would be a way to run a team effectively and still make a profit

You use 200k ....because you can.
You can because your nation now hasn't high level of team.
So you can stay in II division with this salary cap and at the same time,do a little treasure that you'll use when you are ready to win.
Good strategy,nothing to say but we can't do the same thing because ( i repeat) using this kind of gameplay,we finish in low divisions...
Instead you can use it ,win games,keep merchandise and contract tv of high level,many people in palace with high prices and so on...
i don't say you " you wrong"...i say you " don't compare the economic situation/managment team between australia and italy,for example.
i hope you understand what i'm saying even if my english isn't so good

edit ; can you explain me when you say "my cap is closer 500k"....???
Your incomes are 500k considering tv contract,palace and merchandising?

Last edited by TheIsoTruth at 8/19/2010 6:46:08 AM