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From: Kivan

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104275.35 in reply to 104275.34
Date: 8/15/2009 9:32:26 PM
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I have to disagree, because the price free agents sell for are the real market value prices. Many teams with a lot of money would bid but they wouldn't overbid so those players most often were signed for the amount of money they are really worth...

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104275.36 in reply to 104275.35
Date: 8/15/2009 11:18:04 PM
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no offense but your wrong many free agents were bought low and then sold for a much higher price.

example

people online 368 buy free agent for 250k (low price not much competition on bidding)
then resell when
people online 3425 sell free agent for 500k (very good chance of sale)

i have seen countless examples of managers doing this.

try reading the now closed day trading post in bb global

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104275.37 in reply to 104275.36
Date: 8/16/2009 12:33:32 PM
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I agree with that, but things like this happen without the free agents too...
if people can't but for 250k during the night because they sleep, they can always post an early bid in the amount of how much they think the player is really worth. In that example, if I thought the player was worth 500k I'd bid that before going to sleep at least to prevent people from getting a low price deal that they can use later to make money.

From: CrazyEye

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104275.38 in reply to 104275.37
Date: 8/16/2009 4:18:11 PM
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the problems starting in that a lot of players just watch the transfer of the next 1-2 hours, if there was a fitting player. Or a unsecure in bidding to much when they double up the current bid, were as to bid a high minimum don't bite that much with search for a bargain.

You could make very good on all times, but you have alot higher chanches at uncommon times with less rivality on the transfer market. And the FA, don't get listed when a team is on and so there is no regulation of the demand to the offers.

And you always talk for real prices, the current prices are real, the prices with fa are very silly because there are lot more listening betwenn wednesday/thursday then the other days, but nearly the same demand the other days so you have jumping prices betwenn a week.

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104275.40 in reply to 104275.39
Date: 8/16/2009 5:09:27 PM
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There would always be the same idiots in the database too, so I don't see much sense in this suggestion. The TLE _is_ the database, anyhow.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.41 in reply to 104275.40
Date: 8/16/2009 5:17:20 PM
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i believe the improvement is, when you had a database like that:

100k
125k
150k
250k

The tpe say betwenn 100-250k, the overview will say that you normally pay 100-150k

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104275.42 in reply to 104275.41
Date: 8/16/2009 5:25:44 PM
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Right, except you still have no idea why one guy was boght at $250,000 which doesn't give you any better understanding of which of the two estimates is more precise.

What if the normal range is ~130-250k or, and one guy went low because he sold in the off-hours?

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/16/2009 5:27:18 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.44 in reply to 104275.43
Date: 8/16/2009 5:43:26 PM
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TPE exists for those who aren't skilled enough to factor anything themselves -- and it's not meant to be a surgically precise price estimation.

Browsing the player market for players that have been bid on can typically give you a fair idea for what most players are worth, too.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.45 in reply to 104275.42
Date: 8/16/2009 5:43:42 PM
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Right, except you still have no idea why one guy was boght at $250,000 which doesn't give you any better understanding of which of the two estimates is more precise.

What if the normal range is ~130-250k or, and one guy went low because he sold in the off-hours?


maybe a four man range isn't that representative, but there are also lot of player with alot players in the tpe ;) So you could see the runaway value, i was just to lazy to put in ten numbers. And the runaway values are normally people who don't have time to watch for a cheap player, or sells who run out during server problems.

The crazyest TPE i got was betwenn 50k and 4,5 Mio with 8 transfers, i believe the top end wasn't very intresting forthe estimation of the value ^^ And i recognize at least 3 cases like that with differences of 2 mio in my rooster, in the last seasons.

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