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174125.35 in reply to 174125.34
Date: 2/10/2011 4:53:55 PM
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Can someone please summarise the pros and cons of this suggestion.

Leaving personal views and opinions aside, is anyone capable of listing 5 reasons why it should be done and 5 reasons why it shouldnt. Reasons in relation to the benefit of the game for me, you and the other users.

Because if we end up with more pros than cons then its a no-brainer its worth a shot, but if we end up with more problems and negatives then again this is not a good suggestion going forward.

And a couple of comments

1. Its not about making things more scary, in my mind its just a way of making things more transparent and easier for people to follow. As Knecht said, there would be no benefit to him to know that "sweetgurl69" was fined 200k, but if I am the one that reported "sweetgurl69" for illegal transfers, then I have an interest in seeing this comment. And that would encourage me to continue to in the game, without bothering the GM for news (which he is not aloud to give anyway) and wondering whatever happened to my report!!!! So overall there is a benefit for someone.

2. Also I personally would be interested to see more views from GMs and BBs or users that have been in the game for a while, and have more experience in the game, and here their arguments in favor or against the suggestion.

3. And please please, a game is a game, not linked to real life, what we are trying to do is make the game fair, and easier for people to enjoy while getting rid of people that cheat and avoid issues that cause arguments or raise questions in various communities. We can all do without these things and maybe this might be one of the ways forward.

Thank you

Pikaso

Aris kai den eimai kala
From: akage14

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174125.38 in reply to 174125.37
Date: 2/11/2011 3:09:40 AM
Kentauroi Cholargou
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thank you so much for such a lengthy answer...
in some of your cons i would comment that are hypothesis rather than facts. i do respect though your concern about an increase in your voluntary work as a BB, but i thought it wouldnt be such a hard task once you issued the penalty to just add a name in a list (been a GM myself in another online game...normally took me 10sec)

Cheaters will have a better understanding of which crimes lead to which punishments. If cheaters know what they need to do to avoid getting caught it will only make it easier to cheat and may eventually lead to more cheating.

i dont understand this comment. If cheaters get a fine from a GM dont they know or can they no try to do stuff to avoid getting caught?
how this can get easier looking at a list of people being punished??

again i am talking of a very simple list i.e : User name -Team's name-penalty- reason (transfer fees above market/multiple accounts/inappropriate language etc...)
as you see no further details for someone to get wiser on how to cheat in the game

Certain reporters will likely continuously make reports against the same team if they see that they are not being fined or banned (even if they don't deserve to be).

that could as well be happpening even in larger number at the moment cause NONE has any information about whether a team was fined so people keep filling reports...i think if users see a regular update of the list they will understand
a) their report was valid or b) their report wasnt valid

for me
PROS:
1) improve the static communication(in the area of cheating) between the game and the users. At the moment the communication is...write a report...the end

2) will ease the public feeling that some kind of justice exists in the game

3)will comfort users that more cheaters can be discouraged to practice

4) will stop users hussling the GM's about certain teams if they see that finally those teams were punished

5) will increase the number of users who spend time to write a report

6) will improve communication in the forums thus making the game better..this game is not only about setting a starting team...but communicating with users in local forums



From: akage14
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174125.40 in reply to 174125.39
Date: 2/11/2011 3:45:04 AM
Kentauroi Cholargou
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well ......when i made my initial suggestion, i was pretty much certain that i would be receiving 100% possitive feedback.
well i should say 90% and was expecting only people who arent playing by the rules to object to such a list...

instead in the past 2 days... i have been reading about witch hunting, extra GM -unpaid- work, nuissance to the users
conspiracy theories, tendency for a general secrecy...

all these for what reason???

i personnaly believe to discourage people from writing reports...(not a personal attack)

am fed up...apologies to everyone...

From: nik69
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174125.42 in reply to 174125.41
Date: 2/11/2011 4:15:48 AM
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hmmm what the dude said is make public the penalties that are given.....
instead everyone is over analysing it saying how hard it it, there are no benefits and then we are all welcomed to continue writing reports=to continue witch hunting...

i ve never written a report, cant be bothered....but i dont really think some people want us to know whats happening with those cheating...
i think the cheaters are far too many..and if all cheaters are banned the game actual users will drop...dramatically....

:)))) well its just a personal view....eitherwise that list would have been up ages ago....

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From: nik69

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174125.45 in reply to 174125.44
Date: 2/11/2011 9:02:20 AM
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am afraid they dont care about it....
farming, destruction teams, multiple accounts, poor activity in the forums...all these are let loose.....

53.000 users....its been like that since i first registered....and if things dont change the number will remain the same...

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