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187558.35 in reply to 187558.30
Date: 8/2/2011 5:29:01 AM
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Wasnt that bad huh? This guy was a #1 pick. Look at the history of #1 picks and over the last 30+ years they are all either great players, or pretty good players. Potential means nothing after the draft, it is after that point that production becomes the measure used. Oden has started 60 games in 3 seasons, playing in 82 total. that is 1/3rd of the games portland has played in that time. When he has played he has had a few good games but overall I think mediocre would be flattering to his play. 22 minutes per game, 9.4 pts, 7.3 RB, 1.4 blocks. I feel confident that knowing what they know now about his knees the Blazers would certainly pick someone else if they could go back, even if Durant wasnt an option. All that to me spells bust considering both where he was picked and what he was paid compared directly to what he has done.

And yes, Kwame Brown was also a bust. He did play more often but he also got paid alot more and put up similar if not worse numbers to Odens. You probably have to go back to 1977 to find a worse or at least equally bad #1 pick with Kent Benson, known more for getting leveled his first game by Kareem injuring them both than he is for anything done on the court. Hel, even Bogut and Bargnani look vastly more valuable for their pick than Oden does. 4 major injuries to his knees his first three years. Bust

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187558.36 in reply to 187558.35
Date: 8/2/2011 7:02:25 AM
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Wasnt that bad huh? This guy was a #1 pick. Look at the history of #1 picks and over the last 30+ years they are all either great players, or pretty good players.


Oden is also a pretty good player but injured, a bad player as number one pick is properly Larue Martin.

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187558.37 in reply to 187558.36
Date: 8/2/2011 12:58:36 PM
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I'm not sure we will ever find out how good Oden is. If we ask his mother she will probably agree with you. If you ask the GM of the Blazers, I bet he says....


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187558.39 in reply to 187558.37
Date: 8/3/2011 1:34:19 AM
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I'm not sure we will ever find out how good Oden is. If we ask his mother she will probably agree with you. If you ask the GM of the Blazers, I bet he says....




i think the new contract he get from the GM was surely a sign that he agree with you.

Oh wait, he got lot more then the minimum, and they even want to sign him.

Maybe we had o check if Oden's mother the GM of the franchise.

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187558.41 in reply to 187558.39
Date: 8/3/2011 4:19:20 AM
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Haha, yep. If he signed him then it must be gold. He and you both have higher hopes than I do for him. I get that he was great in college. I remember the high hopes all of the draft scouts innundated us with. I have seen his size and highlights and recognize the potential for greatness. What drowns all that out is the actual performance of his fisrt three years. I beieve this contract is also based on his potential, and Portland is willing to gamble in hopes of still getting a return on their investment. We should certainly revisit this topic when they play a few games. Say....meet you here around New Years?

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187558.42 in reply to 187558.41
Date: 8/3/2011 5:19:36 PM
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I think players normally get a pass from being labeled a "bust" if they are unproductive due to injury.

If its that they never develop, get eclipsed by other players, have attitude or drug issues etc., then I think most people would label them a "bust".



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187558.43 in reply to 187558.42
Date: 8/6/2011 12:43:38 PM
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Well, the word in this usage is open to interpretation I suppose. Bust in this context is considered slang by Webster's so there is no exact interpretation. For me a bust is someone whom expecations are high and resulting production is low. Or put another way- High investment+ low return = bust.