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191262.35 in reply to 191262.34
Date: 7/30/2011 8:50:41 AM
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Beanerz has done are marvelous job in the past 2 season and it's great you will continue with the same path.

I agree that Canada's depth of talent is kind of limited and you got a good point on SF. As for the training part, it will be a good start with Naismith and hopefully DII will follow by spending money on potentials and keeping them in Canada. I am definitely on board with you and will start saving up. You will get my vote!

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191262.36 in reply to 191262.34
Date: 7/30/2011 12:16:55 PM
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i'm curious as to what you would envision the skillsets to be with your idea of the SF's. I know that it takes 6-7-9 seasons already to get players to the point where you see Kaleel and Abbot at. Do you see the outside inside focus as a "redistribution" of the skill points? or continual training past that to increase the overal skill points even higher? this would indicate the player not being a part of the team until age 27/28 ish?

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191262.37 in reply to 191262.36
Date: 7/31/2011 8:02:49 AM
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I'm talking a redistribution of points. I know Abbot had roughly 103 points or so between JS to SB and his SB was low. I figure we focus less on IS and focus more on OD, ID, JS, JR, with a little bit of rebounding. And then for an inside SF we don't worry about JS and JR as much and really pump the OD, ID, and IS.

It's just trying to find the right players and the right managers to try and make these specialized players right now because it is still going to take probably 7 seasons until this player is made.

I don't think there's a point focusing on training players as we're getting to 26-27. I know Rip had big plans for Kaleel and how he wanted him to turn out, but he really slowed down with training as he got older.

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191262.38 in reply to 191262.37
Date: 7/31/2011 8:35:50 AM
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Greerzilla, how you feel that our current defense on the NT team? Would a defenisve-oriented small forward benefit our NT team since the NT team itself will consist of alot good scorers

Before deciding whether the SF is inside or outside oriented, focus on OD, ID, RB then PS for in the first 3-4 years. This would probably allow you to have a superior defender at the U21 level.

Thoughts?

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191262.39 in reply to 191262.38
Date: 7/31/2011 8:46:32 AM
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I actually think that we need extra scoring than we do extra defense. If you look at some or our ratings we put up, especially when playing top teams that on defense the ratings were very similar. It's looking at the scoring ratings where we seem to lack (along with having no monster Centres that the rest of the world has.)

I think a defensive specialist could work, but we would really need to improve the offense for him to work.

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191262.41 in reply to 191262.40
Date: 7/31/2011 9:20:19 AM
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I saw him on the TL but didn't look hard enough at how well he popped this year. I was basing it off on the offsite forum when you wanted to train him until he was 28.

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191262.42 in reply to 191262.37
Date: 7/31/2011 2:27:19 PM
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i think this idea regarding the SF makes some sense. i do think it would difficult to have some people really buy into it with the long term foresight it needs to come through. the few that have gone through the trouble of producing elite SF already have spent 'years' to do it and been around a very long time. for somebody to buy into that now from the ground floor we wouldn't see it come to life for a while yet as well. it would be interesting to see how it goes.

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191262.43 in reply to 191262.42
Date: 7/31/2011 2:31:28 PM
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i'm finding this debate far less intense and less insults and mudslinging than i can remember from the last time i ran. (HPP throw something out there! it was me and you last time i believe)

question for the other candidates. what place would you expect to achieve in the opening pool B this season? who would you see as a problem in the pool and why?

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191262.44 in reply to 191262.43
Date: 7/31/2011 3:06:39 PM
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3rd. With Chile and Brasil in our group, 1st is highly unlikely, but 2nd wouldnt be with our schedule, we could use extra effort against Brasil if we really wanted 2nd, but I dont see any reason not to head into the second round with as much enthusiasm as we can. Chile and Brasil would be the only real problems, Chile is arguably the best team in BB, had Poland not had HCA I think Chile would have won the worlds last season. Brasil is a perrennial powerhouse and their current roster is strong, not sure if it is their final roster or not, but it certaintly is strong and they wont be beaten easily.

Last edited by Bballin at 7/31/2011 3:07:20 PM

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