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His last comment took something i never said and implied that i did.

your correct on his lowish JS and JR. I don't find that hard to train up. I don't like training up OD per say, but i think it gets a tremendously bad rap as something that is untrainable. I feel that the players listed in this manner are also significantly undervalued for what they are. If i get two or three of them and can simultaniously train them all up at the same time, then it makes them far more valuable to me, and to the TL as a whole. Runyon might be on the low end. but i think he at the time of the draft was worth more than the 4k offer. He wasn't worth the first listing a week beforehand. think it was roughly 175k.

I'd disagree on the whole with the assessment that Runyon isn't worth the training resources. I certainly wouldn't keep him as the first or second guy in line, but assuming i cover my minutes in a given week with my first two trainees i see no reason not to go ahead and turn him into something rather than wasting minutes on a nobody on my roster, or a 1k player who has zero secondaries.

I would fully agree with you on the OD side being poor, but i also did a bit of analysis on how hard it would be to train a guy from a 2IS/3ID vs a 1 OD, and found that i would save 3-4 weeks training OD rather than secondaries, if i were to train them at the same time. And on the whole, the later it got into the players age, the worse it seemed to get. If i train HA and OD, and we start at a 2/2 OD/HA and a 2/2 IS/ID or ID/REB, then it's much the same thing. Even though the ID/REB benefit from one another, they still only match the training speed.

I don't really develop players for profit that often, and i do agree that when i sell him for the amount i expect to fetch, i'll probably end up overall with a loss based on salary costs, but it'll give me an idea of where i need to start from if i take a secondaries starting point on a guard.

Difference between you and them is you are in a micronation,those guys don't make the exact money as you.

Seriously dude I am not trying to disrespect you.

I honestly think you are inexperienced. That is not disrespect, that is my honest opinion. maybe respect to you means sugarcoating everything.

I'm not your Gramma dude.

Maybe you have been pampered and can't take being called out. pampering is not respect. I think you have a very eager need to give people advice.

500k in sales makes you green. In my opinion nobody should be taking advice from you. It doesn't even mean you are wrong, it just means it highly unlikely you know what you are talking about.

If you were Shaq and I said you shouldn't be giving Free throw lessons.... that is not disrespectful, its an honest opinion about how I view things. Successful experienced peopel should give advice. Its very practical if you think about it.

I really don't think there is anything to be offended about.

Ask someone neutral to read your posts in here. I think that will benefit me more than anything more that i can say at this point, as you've tuned me out.

A player is worth whatever you want to pay for him.

It's getting someone to agree with your valuation if you need to resell the player which is the tricky bit.

May be that your "3 skilled Cs" are always in abundant supply and then yes, i would buy them at times when prices are low.

The players i am looking for are not like that and i will buy them at any time of the season as long as i think that the transfer price minus salary savings compared to players with equal strength (but less economical build) minus additional merchandise earnings etc. is reasonable and within my budget.

Last edited by Robard at 11/6/2012 7:47:11 AM

Really who is the bad guy here, me who is trying to share what little I know with newer players, or people who know less than me insisting they know more and misguiding others for the sake of their own egos?

Why do you feel the need to post this. It makes you look absolutely awful.

What country I play in has nothing to do with those transfers. Profit is profit.

Nobody, and i mean nobody, has disputed the fact that micronation status has nothing to do with profit on selling transfers.

EVERYBODY, and i mean EVERYBODY, has disputed the fact that your valuation of promotion is not realistic because of your micronation status. Your value on promoting is probably only worth 5-10k cash to you, because you didn't have to do anything to get to division 1. Thats not your fault i suppose (although i think when you join you can appeal to be placed in your native country), but it doesn't mean that you can simply throw the value of promotion away. For bigger nations, getting out of D.V and into D.IV or D.III is very important.

Get off your soap box and understand what is being said, and this thread is like 20 posts shorter.


Last edited by FuriousSK at 11/6/2012 1:19:02 PM