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240497.35 in reply to 240497.32
Date: 4/14/2013 3:39:37 PM
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an 8% increase after 1 year is still an increase of 8% after 5 years... you can't add it up to a 40% increase


It all depends on terms of measurement.
Your CAGR, or Compound Annual Growth Rate, for those five years would be 8%, but your overall growth for the 5 years would be 46.9%.


The 8% is not at all based on the prior skill level of the player, though, so it wouldn't be compounded.

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Date: 4/14/2013 4:37:52 PM
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The 8% is not at all based on the prior skill level of the player, though, so it wouldn't be compounded.


Ah right, I see where that came from originally.
If a level 5 trainer adds 8% more skill points each year than the lvl 4 trainer, then it's not additive because the level 4 trainer is still adding the 'baseline' increase that the 8% is tacked onto along the way.
When I wrote my first post about the CAGR. I was referring to the increase over the original starting point of the player, not the comparison between the lvl 4 and lvl 5 trainer. Not exactly relevant now that I re-read the posts.

So, for the record: if the difference between the two is 8%, then having a Lvl 5 trainer will net you 8% more skill points than a Lvl 4 trainer would have, all else being equal, for one year or nine billion years.

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240497.37 in reply to 240497.34
Date: 4/14/2013 4:40:33 PM
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Thank you! This is what I was trying to say but stated it badly. You made it more clear. +1


I actually thought he was joking. Compounding interest has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. It's still only 8% my friend.

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240497.38 in reply to 240497.37
Date: 4/14/2013 6:25:25 PM
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Dude im being sarcastic. I just have a good attitude when people make fun of me ;) I still don't understandhowthedifferent level percentages work though.

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240497.39 in reply to 240497.38
Date: 4/14/2013 6:36:28 PM
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Having looked at the stats I would never get anything other then a level 4 trainer. I always have one for less then 20k a week and have a current 21 NT player in his 2nd season in that side.
The difference is so small that the increase in cost seems a waste of money to me. But some want seem to feel its worth spending twice as much for the extra few pops over seasons of training.

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Date: 4/14/2013 8:26:58 PM
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I just want to add, that you don't actually get more. You get it faster. Potentials still cap at the same point, so you don't get a better player, you get a player to the peak slightly faster. Is speed worth it, should be the real question.

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Date: 4/14/2013 11:36:51 PM
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According to the training speed analysis data it shows these as effects of trainers level 4 to 7 for 18 to 25 year olds


Level 4 - 99.5
Level 5 - 100
Level 6 - 103.2
Level 7 108

All as a % of relative training.

So is these which are taken from 1,000s of weeks training are true then the difference of level 4 to 5 is almost impossible to see.



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240497.44 in reply to 240497.42
Date: 4/15/2013 4:09:29 AM
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I thought I read somewhere that the effectiveness is like the following:

Lvl 1: 50%
Lvl 2: 75%
Lvl 3: 87,5%
Lvl 4: 93,75%
Lvl 5: 96,875%
Lvl 6: 98,4375%
Lvl 7: 99,21875%

So an increase in half the difference with the previous level. I don't know if it's accurate though, maybe it's just a simplified version to make it easier to understand it.

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