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I hope you can check this up in your special bug fix day ;). Because I think there really is something wrong with this tactic / shown ratings.

I hope you can check this up in your special bug fix day ;). Because I think there really is something wrong with this tactic / shown ratings.

Yup, I agree. Though I was initially suspicious, it does seem like perimeter defense zones don't work as intended. Or at least don't seem to visibly affect the OD ratings.

Yeah in my previous posts i've posted a few examples and my thoughs.

My thoughts are that the tactic does work as intented, but it's another presentational error in the written ratings.

These two games (2 games after eachother) are the best examples I think.

(1422) normal, man-to-man, strong(medium) PD
(1456) normal, 3-2 zone, average(medium) PD

and here is an explanation about these matches (24361.30) (24361.32)

Hmm my examples are all of NT matches indeed (because I rarely play 3-2 zone)

But the topic starter, who was the first to adress this problem, used club matches as example. So I guess it affects both of these.

I don't think the problem is in the engine itself, but in the boxscore page. Everything works as it should I think. But the Matchup ratings are just displaying it wrong. The points per 100 shots are right I think, but there is just something wrong with written ratings (strong(medium) etc).

I dunno if those parts are seperated (the engine and the displayed ratings), but I got the feeling the game works well, and the tactics work as it should, but it's just not shown as it should.

the 3-2 zone bug with outside defense seems to persist. Any new insights on this one?

This is extremely annoying, since the bug seems to not be presentational, and because all explanations of why the team rating might be lower fall short.

Most current example is contained in (1545) and (1547).

The bottomline is, Bulgaria plays virtually the same defenders in virtually the same or better form in the 8 relevant positions. Moreover, the 4 best defenders are packed in the 4 guards slots for the 3-2 game.

Even if we assume (and this is contrary to what the rules read) that some defense rating might be lost because the SF weighs more into the OD rating than the SG, this still doesn't explain how there is a full level drop in the OD rating when 3-2 is selected.

I can understand if there was no visible difference, then I'd assume that the small downgrade is compensated by the 3-2 zone. But this is drop in the OD rating is absolutely unwarranted, and judging by the matchup ratings of the Turkish team, the bug is probably not presentational.

I'd love to hear more feedback from a BB- and I'll be happy to provide more information about the situation in a non-public forum.

Cheers.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 6/9/2008 2:47:43 PM

the 3-2 zone bug with outside defense seems to persist.

I agree with you about this bug in the perimeter defense rating with the 3-2 zone
(although I think it's only a presentational bug).

Here are my 2 examples:
(4310219) and (4310226).

Similar skills and same game shape, but home court advantage and higher enthusiasm in the second game with the 3-2 defense.... and still same ratings!

In particular, same players as PG (both level 7 OD), better SG in the second game (2 level 7 against 2 level 6), worse SF in the second game (average 5.6 vs 6.6).



Last edited by Newton07 at 6/10/2008 5:56:19 AM