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The tortoise did beat the hare in the end. Just remember the famous BB words. That BB is a marathon, not a race.

That said, a marathon is also a race.

And the one who wins in the end is often part of the few men leading the race since the beginning

It's just that BB doesnt have a goal line where it stops and we got one specific winner. We got like an never ending tour de france with different parts of the entire track.

A first division title might be considered a goal line, but I get your point

... which is why knowing the promotion rules in advance is important (i cant undesrtand anyone challenge that).

So, i would love to know how it will work next season and the following : next season, league III will be full of 256 (16*16) utopists. At the end of next season, we will need 64 of them to promote from league III to league II, which is 4 per league III. How will these teams be replaced in league III ?

There are various possibilities, for instance :
- 1/ There will be 64 league IV. So you simply promote league IV champions AND no one is relegated from league III to league IV
- 2/ or you think 4 teams should be relegated from league III to league IV as usual and it opens 64 more spots for promoting from league IV to league III, with rules to be determined.

It has really an impact on the strategy : in case 1/, the door from league IV to league III "closes" next year and u are sure not to be relegated at the end of next season if u are in league III : it's a big incentive to try to promote this year. In case 2/ promoting at any price this season is riskier because the probability to demote the season after is high.

I understand BB tries to keep its options opened, but i think it would be fairer to all utopist to have some clarity one the rules

Thx in advance.

i think what jeff pointed out here is even more important to know now than the promotion rules for this year. if his second option will be used you can just go all-in this season and tank in league 3 to build arena and save some money. it would be a huge letdown for those who decided to "start slow"

Exactly. Demoting D3 teams will be replaced by D4 teams using our normal promotion strategy (not the one we are using this season, which is a D6 on steroids). It will be a combination of promoting league champions and top league ranked teams (ranked the same way we rank bot promotion). So, in practice, of 256 teams in D3, we will have 128 empty spots in D3 (64 will promote, 64 will demote to D4). We will fill those spots with league champions (not conference champions like the first season!) from D4 and with other teams by rank (the same ranking order as explained before). The number of league champions will be 64-80, maybe even a bit more, but not more than 128, that's for sure.

(can't recall if Spain and Italy had humans in D6)

I started in D6 XD

Marin,

Is it possible to create a promotion ranking based on the factors other than winning your conference in the playoffs. This would give teams a sense of how close or far they are from potentially promoting. Otherwise we're just guessing.