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18 y/o SS 7'1" 7/3/7/2/37 6/7/6/6
Would be open to this guy either being a normal Center or a Normal PF

18 y/o HoF 7'2" 7/3/7/2/37 6/7/6/6
As he is a HOF player I would let the manager do what he wants. If I think his training is not getting the best out of the player (not just from an U21 pov, but I mean just bad training), I would push for a sale of him

18 y/o SS 6'1" 6/5/7/2/1/3 5/3/3/3
I would push for this guy to get his OD up to 13-15, and pretty much all other training would be JR, maybe some JS

18 y/o PAS 6'2" 2/1/5/7/7/7 1/2/4/2
With such low JS/JR I don't think this guy would ever make the cut for a USA team (My PG still needs at least 8 JS and 13 OD, by the time he got to there I don't think he would have any time to train his Passing to make the team).

As per my older statement, I am not trying to change everything, but that 3 guy would be someone I train differently. Also there would be no guarantee he would make the team, but he has a better chance of being a 3pt shooter, then trying to fix PS/DV/HD.

Just to clarify, you're saying the 3rd guy would have a better chance to make the team with 1 driving , 2 handling and 3 passing than actually fixing his weak points???

USA Offsite backed managers have made 5 straight Worlds final appearances in U21(3) and NT(2) and have won three Gold medals. No other country in recent memory can claim that. This is the Golden Age of American BuzzerBeater brought to you by the USA Offsite. Claims that we are not winning enough are laughable at best.

-Phyr

Right. Finals appearances do not count. If we do not win it all, then we failed. I understand a lot of you are not going to agree with this, but it is what it is. As Americans it is our right to win.

We work with what we have. Last season we had three players on the roster (along with two other prospects) that eclipsed 16/10 JS/JR. That, along with the fact they we were unsure if Italy would use GDP, and 100% sure that they would never guess Motion on us, lead us to that victorious tactic.

-EBW

So whose decision was it to run the tactics that we did in this recent final against France? Was it a collective decision made by all of you, or was this Phyr on his own? This is really what I think we all need to know. And I think all of you can understand the implications of either answer.





Last edited by GOLDMEMBEAR at 8/6/2015 3:34:31 PM

Well I'm not running, so I'll let Phyr answer that if he wants to, as my opinion would be biased and it is by no means the exact thoughts of Phyr.

Any American manager can register for the off-site and see the exact threads for each game.

Any American manager can register for the off-site and see the exact threads for each game.

Right. Thanks for the tip. But I think we need an answer on this thread. Just in case there is possibly an American BB user that is not involved with the offsite.

GODBEAR you have not produce a single reason why people should vote for you for manager other than the fact that your name is kinda of edgy and that I didn't win the finals. If Americans have a right to win, using your own logic, you are not the answer. You couldn't even win enough with your club team last season to make the playoffs in DIII. And we know for certain that you choose 100% of your tactics. I understand you are not going to agree with this, but it is what it is.

Thegame187, since you also support GODBEAR's argument, since you couldn't win a a single game of your relegation series this season, why should the community trust you to win a big game? Outclassed by an offsite manager I might add.

America does deserves the manager that gives America the best chance to win the next two seasons and that is me and not both of you.

Last edited by Phyr at 8/6/2015 3:52:30 PM

PSA: GODBEAR'S REAL NAME IS NOT GODBEAR. Since he is a supporter it shows his press releases and since he has not written a press release it shows the default one from his team's creation.

Illinois Riveters (30106)share

Manager: GODBEAR
Country: USA
League: III.8
Rival: shm
World Rank: 1950
Country Rank: 92
Illinois Riveters Franchise Created!
Posted on 8/2/2013
It's a proud day for BuzzerBeater as the commissioner has announced the induction of a new expansion team - Illinois Riveters. The team has yet to play a single game and already there is much hype surrounding this new and exciting franchise. Fans are lining up at the box office in order to obtain season tickets, media outlets are scrambling for interesting stories on the squad, and TV stations are fighting for broadcasting rights.

With general manager MICKOLAUS at the helm the future looks bright for Illinois Riveters. Their journey to become the best team in BuzzerBeater starts now!

Sounds like a foreign name to me. GODBEAR IS A SHAM, HIS PATRIOTISM ACT IS A LIE, THE CAKE IS A LIE TOO...

I tend to try and lean more to the side of humility ;)

But I would still have to agree with Phyr here. The logic that thegame and Goldie Bear has presented has been turned over. Phyr's point remains, he did the best he could with what was presented with him, and he did a great job. If he went back and re-did the final game tactics, would he? Well, I can tell you, he tried. I was chatting with him right before the game started and he tried to change the tactic but he was a split-second too late. Both thegame and Golden Globe didn't accomplish the most with what their club teams were given. If I had the time, I would be interested in doing an in-game analysis of each of those two users' hit rates on GDP guesses and tactics.

If either of you can present actual reasons why YOU would be the best choice and not why Phyr wouldn't be the best choice, I will listen. Thegame got on that track when he suggested different builds for players, but I personally do not think that is the best way to go about things. I do appreciate your creativity, though.

I love this post because you admit:

1) You designed a poor team that couldn't win at the highest levels of BB. We aren't talking about a team that lost in the finals like the USA U21, we are talking about a team that couldn't hack it, lost a whole lot of games, and was relegated. If you admit that you designed a poor team, then I don't know if I would trust you to design, train, and pick a team that can cut it against the other elite international teams.

2) You say that secondaries don't matter. On the U21 that is a half-truth. You can turn a guy with no secondaries into a great player but the best U21 players especially if you want to play multiple tactics need good starting secondaries. Its impossible to successfully run multiple tactics without guys with secondaries. You have stated over and over again that you want a team that can play multiple tactics, but you make contradictory statements. You criticize our amazing semifinals win against Italy because we Motion and not LI? Secondaries not important? Made you should pick a side and stick with it.

On the DI/NT/B3 that is beyond a stupid statement. There is a reason why magiker (offsite hero) won the USA Cup and not you, and it he was because he trained his players to have great secondaries for the NT. Look at the skills of the B3 teams that I posted in USA offsite. They were LI teams that also had great secondaries EVERYWHERE and could play neutral tactics.

GODBEAR you have not produce a single reason why people should vote for you for manager other than the fact that your name is kinda of edgy and that I didn't win the finals. If Americans have a right to win, using your own logic, you are not the answer. You couldn't even win enough with your club team last season to make the playoffs in DIII. And we know for certain that you choose 100% of your tactics. I understand you are not going to agree with this, but it is what it is.

Thegame187, since you also support GODBEAR's argument, since you couldn't win a a single game of your relegation series this season, why should the community trust you to win a big game? Outclassed by an offsite manager I might add.

In season 31, Illinois Riveters made the finals of the playoffs in league USA III.8
* Yes, I lost in the finals this past season. To an American.
In season 28, Yorkville BC made the finals of the playoffs in league USA III.13
* Yeah you've never lost a D3 final?
In season 30, South Stags were crowned champions of league USA II.1
* Yeah, not sure what your point was comparing your teams history to thegame.

America does deserves the manager that gives America the best chance to win the next two seasons and that is me and not both of you.

World Championships results:
s9 - 6th
s11 - 6th
s13 - 6th
s15 - Bronze
s17 - Gold
s19 - Gold
s21 - Silver
s23 - 6th
s25 - 6th
s27 - Gold
s29 - Gold
s31 -Silver

Americas Tournament results:
s6 - did not place
s8 - Gold
s10 - Bronze
s12 - Gold
s14 - Silver
s16 - Gold
s18 - Gold
s20 - Gold
s22 - Gold
s24 - Gold
s26 - Gold
s28 - Gold
s30 - Silver

Coaches:
Season 6 - 7 brian
Season 8 - 11 Coco
Season 12 - 15 Jelme
Season 16 - 17 RamboVT
Season 18 - 21 magiker
Season 22 - 25 fewmit
Season 26 - 29 E.B.W.
Season 30 - 31 Phyr

You still did not answer the question. You need to admit that ultimately you pressed the button that cost us the gold. You say you are the candidate that gives America the best chance to win, well you had a chance.


Last edited by GOLDMEMBEAR at 8/6/2015 4:28:57 PM

PSA: GODBEAR'S REAL NAME IS NOT GODBEAR. Since he is a supporter it shows his press releases and since he has not written a press release it shows the default one from his team's creation.

Illinois Riveters (30106)share

Manager: GODBEAR
Country: USA
League: III.8
Rival: shm
World Rank: 1950
Country Rank: 92
Illinois Riveters Franchise Created!
Posted on 8/2/2013
It's a proud day for BuzzerBeater as the commissioner has announced the induction of a new expansion team - Illinois Riveters. The team has yet to play a single game and already there is much hype surrounding this new and exciting franchise. Fans are lining up at the box office in order to obtain season tickets, media outlets are scrambling for interesting stories on the squad, and TV stations are fighting for broadcasting rights.

With general manager MICKOLAUS at the helm the future looks bright for Illinois Riveters. Their journey to become the best team in BuzzerBeater starts now!



Sounds like a foreign name to me. GODBEAR IS A SHAM, HIS PATRIOTISM ACT IS A LIE, THE CAKE IS A LIE TOO...

And if I don't win this I am going to send my resume to the Toccoa Panthers!