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From: Melo9

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Date: 6/24/2016 9:09:08 AM
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Well, I'm not saying 3-2 can't be good against Inside. But like LA-King said, it's hard to look at a game without all the factors. Players skills, enthusiasm, etc.
But on that game I see that you have the advantage with GDP, and your Inside Defense was only 10 low. He had 13 TO's, not bad...but you also had 13 TO's vs man to man eheheh.

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From: Robard

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You deduced that a team with outside offense vs outside defense wile defending inside offense with outside defense winning an away game with less effort must be better overall, grats. I am not arguing that.
What you fail to see is what a 3-2 Manon talks about actually does. Its quite obvious you think its about pressure forcing turnovers and reduce offensive flow. Its not. Ist about defending inside shots and reducing shot percentage.

TO is not the same as steals and yes, if that IV league team has equal to better ratings and pp100 than your team then please link that game.

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My mother in law always buys items with the lowest number in stock because if many people already bought it, it must be good, right?

From: Melo9

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What you fail to see is what a 3-2 Manon talks about actually does. Its quite obvious you think its about pressure forcing turnovers and reduce offensive flow. Its not. Ist about defending inside shots and reducing shot percentage.


Well, ok...I'm just talking about facts here on the link Manon sugested me to check, and giving my opinion lol. Not being disrespectfull to anyone..

On that game I saw Center shooting 11 - 20 and EP 11-18. The guards tho...shot really really bad, and that great. They probable drive the whole game and got the Center blocking/defending them. But again i say, without knowing player skills etc, its harder

Need to test on private leagues eheh

From: GM-hrudey

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Given what i've tested, most teams prefer not to train passing as high as some other skills. Most tend to prefer OD > PA > JR (not Hrudey though).


I will point out for the record that what I'm doing is somewhere between foolhardy and criminally insane. And fun, I suppose, if you're into that sort of thing.

And on the topic of zones vs. man to man, I will again point out that if you have aggressive players, the zone may not be right for you: (65823062)

From: GM-hrudey

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Your Inside Defense was low, and he had only 3 TO's lol. You won that game because your team was better basically eheh.
I could also put here a game against a IV division team, where I play 2-3 against Outside Ofense and win


There were 8 TOs, only three steals. There were also 17 blocked shots, which is pretty nice indeed.

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Date: 6/24/2016 2:06:09 PM
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I'm not sure it's about how aggressive your players is (89753557). Both C fouled out, main in 10 min, second in 37 , pf 5 fouls. Maybe these fouls result of lack of SB for bigs in zone defense?

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I'm not sure it's about how aggressive your players is (89753557). Both C fouled out, main in 10 min, second in 37 , pf 5 fouls. Maybe these fouls result of lack of SB for bigs in zone defense?


I think the game I linked to was probably before I had gotten to the shotblocking - that was pretty much the last thing I added before free throws for that group. But it was definitely also related to aggression, since the player who decided that night to make Bilbija his personal punching bag was a heavy fouler.

From: Nachtmahr

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But on that game I see that you have the advantage with GDP, and your Inside Defense was only 10 low.

A 3-2 zone costs you 10% of your ID.
So you dimish your ID with it... but guess what. SB has almost no influence in the ID rating. So you can't see if someone played with 2 bigs and both with SB 7 or with SB 17. There is almost no difference. But the result as a whole is completly different. The ratings in BB are a mess. You can believe them as much as the weather forecast for next month.

And the reason why 2-3 zone has such a strong rating is that ID gets a huge boost. So the rating rise. But SB has, again, almost no effect on the rating. But you need it. So what is better? A fantastic rating for a defense where you get kicked out of the arena because you have no SB or a crap rating but high SB and a strong defense? I will take the last one 100 times out of 100.

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