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218937.353 in reply to 218937.351
Date: 6/20/2012 5:28:32 PM
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Agreed!

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218937.354 in reply to 218937.353
Date: 6/21/2012 1:26:38 AM
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I haven't read all this but here is what i think.

There are 2 Different types of tanking,

1) Tanking for draft picks

2) Tanking for Money.

To fix any tanking problem you need to take away the reward for doing it.

1) Tanking for draft picks.

The objective here is to finish as low as you can so you get the first pick in the draft, So all we have to do is not give the lowest team first pick, So i suggest making the picks random for the lowest 6 teams. Finishing last will not automatically give you the first pick, and the bottom/weaker teams still get the 6 best picks in the draft.

2) Tanking for Money.

Problems are,

1)buying up big before the playoffs.

2)sending in 3 players or forfeiting and getting money for it.

3)Training has become useless at the moment because of the TL.

1)buying up big before the playoffs

To fix this we need to change the ineligible for the playoff rule. It need something like you are only aloud to buy 1 player in the 3 weeks before the playoffs and all other players MUST have played at least 6 league/cup games for your team or they are ineligible for the playoff.

2)Sending in 3 players or forfeiting and getting money for it.

Easy fix, increase minimum player number to 5 for starting a game, Increase the Player Salaries Floor, and if a game is forfeited there is no income that week, if there was no game then there should be no income from attendance, no Merchandise sold and TV money. TV stations are not going to pay for a game that never happened. (This is only for the forfeiting team not the opponent) (And if you forfeit an away game you loose you income for your next home game)

3)Training has become useless at the moment because of the TL.

We need to increase the Merchandise for players on your team that you have trained by yourself and decrease the Merchandise income for players you buy of the TL. Training need to become important again NOW because in about 6+ season we are going to have a player shortage on the TL and then the TL prices will go through the roof and screw the TL again. The TL needs balance where the prices stay the same, not going from 1 season where the prices are high then crashes the next season and then becomes unpredictable the next season.


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218937.356 in reply to 218937.354
Date: 6/21/2012 1:40:56 AM
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has there ever been a TL colapse before? Like then TL prices go through the roof and there's like, only 4k people up in there.

Average is about 6-6.5k I belive

So my question is: Has there been any TL collapse in the History of BB?????

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218937.357 in reply to 218937.356
Date: 6/21/2012 1:51:07 AM
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has there ever been a TL colapse before? Like then TL prices go through the roof


Yes, somewhere around season 12 when the BB put a 20k soft cap on the size of the arenas, and then refunded Billions of $$$$ for downgrading all the over sized arenas. With an instant boost in the economy the TL was screwed and player prices went through the roof for about 4+ seasons because so many people had money to burn.

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218937.358 in reply to 218937.357
Date: 6/21/2012 2:11:13 AM
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glad I wasn't there at the time, otherwise I won't be able to buy a guy for a lllllllllllllllooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnggg time....hopefully ther'll be no TL Colapse again, but maybe BB Gods should manage prices more, like manage the TPE to make it reasonable.......

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218937.359 in reply to 218937.354
Date: 6/21/2012 2:22:51 AM
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I haven't read all this but here is what i think.

There are 2 Different types of tanking,

1) Tanking for draft picks

2) Tanking for Money.

To fix any tanking problem you need to take away the reward for doing it.

1) Tanking for draft picks.

The objective here is to finish as low as you can so you get the first pick in the draft, So all we have to do is not give the lowest team first pick, So i suggest making the picks random for the lowest 6 teams. Finishing last will not automatically give you the first pick, and the bottom/weaker teams still get the 6 best picks in the draft.

2) Tanking for Money.

Problems are,

1)buying up big before the playoffs.

2)sending in 3 players or forfeiting and getting money for it.

3)Training has become useless at the moment because of the TL.

1)buying up big before the playoffs

To fix this we need to change the ineligible for the playoff rule. It need something like you are only aloud to buy 1 player in the 3 weeks before the playoffs and all other players MUST have played at least 6 league/cup games for your team or they are ineligible for the playoff.

2)Sending in 3 players or forfeiting and getting money for it.

Easy fix, increase minimum player number to 5 for starting a game, Increase the Player Salaries Floor, and if a game is forfeited there is no income that week, if there was no game then there should be no income from attendance, no Merchandise sold and TV money. TV stations are not going to pay for a game that never happened. (This is only for the forfeiting team not the opponent) (And if you forfeit an away game you loose you income for your next home game)
3)Training has become useless at the moment because of the TL.

We need to increase the Merchandise for players on your team that you have trained by yourself and decrease the Merchandise income for players you buy of the TL. Training need to become important again NOW because in about 6+ season we are going to have a player shortage on the TL and then the TL prices will go through the roof and screw the TL again. The TL needs balance where the prices stay the same, not going from 1 season where the prices are high then crashes the next season and then becomes unpredictable the next season.



Focusing on your solution to #2
In Baseball, since I am former pro, I reference it a lot, In baseball... if there is a Rain Delay, or postponement... OTHER games or even a different program ENTIRELY is televised.

So maybe something like, if your game is a WO game... EVERY other team in the league, then splits what would have been your TV money. *edit* unless another team did this, they then are not eligible, and again the split happens.

Also, attendance is refunded to the people to see double header in future kinda thing. Attendence money should be refunded, and since theres no re-scheduling of game, owner eats the costs of refund because of it. Merchandise they can keep.

Last edited by LBJisaCancer at 6/21/2012 2:23:54 AM

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218937.360 in reply to 218937.358
Date: 6/21/2012 2:27:41 AM
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back then 28 year old SG with 15k salaries were going for 1.2 mil+

for beginners it was hopeless, that's why i don't want to see the TL going up and down like it is.

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218937.363 in reply to 218937.361
Date: 6/21/2012 3:29:37 AM
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I think the four teams that gets relegated is a better solution


The problem with this is that it helps none of the lower/weaker teams in improving to beat the top teams. If the top 4 good draft picks get relegated the lower teams have no chance to improve, and the newly promoted team will still get the last pick and be no better than the relegated teams.

The idea of random bottom 6 is help decrease tanking for draft picks, so a 1 in 6 chance is not as attractive as a 1 in 4 chance or with the current system finish last and you know the 1 pick is yours, also it still stop the top team getting early picks.


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