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Date: 6/30/2010 1:18:28 PM
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My mistake, I thought the standard for the national team was higher than that.

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Date: 6/30/2010 7:32:29 PM
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I dont know those players at all but I do know the coach loves players with good secondary skills. If you have a big man and you put up his passing a lot it makes him a much better player but doesn't affect his wage much just like guards who can score and defend inside. It is the best thing you can do with a player you love but who has low potential - even as low as a 6th man can be a solid player in division III with the right mix of skills and I am no expert but lots of division II teams have their stud players at around the 20k wage level.

For the real national team (not U21) I would assume you needed much higher potential, but for U21 it is just a race to get the best skill set you can in 3 seasons and unless you 100% blast one skill or are doing a big man 100% IS/ID/RE then potential is way overrated. Everyone loves a Hall of Famer but how many players really need more than superstar or even perennial allstar?

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84879.357 in reply to 84879.341
Date: 6/30/2010 8:55:11 PM
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Yo my homeboy ZD is very similar to Basil Frame

Zdravko Baković (12019654) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 19 045
DMI: 107100
Age: 20
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prolific ↑ Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: strong
Driving: proficient Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: average ↓ Free Throw: inept
Experience: pitiful

Does he have a shot? I worked his passing, handling and driving like you guys told me last season so now what does he need to do?

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Date: 6/30/2010 9:14:44 PM
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As usual the initial squad is discussed on the off site forum and he was one of the few players that was listed as a shot of getting into the squad. However there are quite a number of guards ahead of him this season so it's very unlikely he will make it into the U21 squad until next season.

You will definitely need to improve that passing preferably to at least proficient level, outside defence need to improve to sensational/tremendous level and spend the rest of the season on training up his handling/jump shot/jump range. Otherwise he is looking very good at the moment as a prospect for next season.

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Date: 6/30/2010 10:11:11 PM
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I'm sorry, but considering his Atrocious JR and Awful Passing, coupled with the complete lack of OD or ID at the age of 19, I don't see how he's gonna make the team. Dell'Asta (my SF trainee) was far ahead by the same age.

Either you spend all season training OD and JR, or it ain't gonna work out. Will still be a good player for you though.

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Date: 7/1/2010 2:57:27 AM
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How's my 18yo pointguard looking. Fresh out of the draft.

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: awful Handling: respectable
Driving: respectable Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: strong

I'll be 1 position training OD for a few weeks, then getting the passing up I reckon. Any chance in a couple of seasons?

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Date: 7/1/2010 3:31:10 AM
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That JR really hurts if you want him to be a guard but without knowing his height and potential it's kinda hard to tell if he's got even a remote chance.

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Date: 7/1/2010 4:05:19 AM
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How's my 18yo pointguard looking. Fresh out of the draft.

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: awful Handling: respectable
Driving: respectable Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: atrocious
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: strong

I'll be 1 position training OD for a few weeks, then getting the passing up I reckon. Any chance in a couple of seasons?


I'll assume that that's Bains? He has an outside shot I guess. Probably your best shot is to turn him into a PG, since his JR is gonna be to hard to get to a decent level. I would recommend spending pretty much the whole season on his OD though, that's really letting him down atm.

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Date: 7/1/2010 8:20:22 AM
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here's the full info on my player, my plan was to increase the Handling/Passing a little to prominent and then focus on his JS and JR

Basil Frame (12018636) Shooting Guard

Owner: Rosudgeon Raptors

Weekly salary: $ 13 417

DMI: 131300
Age: 20
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: hall of famer
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: strong
Driving: respectable Passing: strong
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: respectable

Experience: awful

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Date: 7/1/2010 6:51:57 PM
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You would definitely want a couple more outside defence pops if you want him to be consistently getting U21 national game time next season since we got a strong crop of guards coming up next season.

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