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113510.36 in reply to 113510.35
Date: 9/28/2009 5:59:45 PM
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I believe if you look back upon the large debate that was struck when we introduced this proposal, you'll find that the VAST majority of users were OUTRAGED at the idea of being penalized for having foreign players on their team, but were OK with the idea of getting a boost for domestic players, and so we gave them indication that we would be doing this as a boost to income. Perhaps we should have gone against popular opinion and not done it that way in order to avoid injecting more money into the economy.. however, I will point out that if we had done it the opposite way we would have been probably removing a large amount of money from the economy. Really in the long run, what we need is a way to tune the outflow of money to the inflow of money.. and as charles says that is exactly what the new salary formulation will do for us. Then we should not have to worry about large scale inflation/deflation as mechanisms will be built it to tune economic conditions appropriately.

we would have liked to put all these changes into place all at once immediately, but of course a) changing anything is upsetting to people and so we have to give them notice b) changing a lot of things at once is likely to result in people being even more upset, and also things are more likely to be screwed up by us and c) its difficult to recode all that code at once. So we implemented this in stages, and I think its possible that right now there is temporarily more money in the economy driving up prices.. although I'm not sure of it. Also, I think some of the changes effectively spread the money out more in the game, and made more users have more disposable income, which is something different than injecting more money in the game, but can still cause inflationary pressure at least in the short run.

From what checking i have done it does seem that more money is spent overall at the start of the season than the end.

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113510.37 in reply to 113510.36
Date: 9/29/2009 7:22:52 AM
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i think a lot of managers are selling players who's prices are much higher than thee real worth. Looks like managers wants 1.000.000 for nothing - because normal players starts at 2.000.000

So is it possible to fight against those managers who are selling players like example - with JS 9 and few other skills maybe 6 and the rest even lower than 4 ? and for this they want 1.000.000

Last edited by smaidigais at 9/29/2009 7:27:55 AM

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113510.38 in reply to 113510.37
Date: 9/29/2009 8:27:19 AM
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i think a lot of managers are selling players who's prices are much higher than thee real worth.


Apart from some very rare cases, this is impossible.

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113510.39 in reply to 113510.38
Date: 9/29/2009 5:49:59 PM
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Just for the record, check this ( The name of the player isn't write because is on the market now) :

here have been 30 recent transfers of 23-24 year old small forwards with tremendous jump shot and allstar potential. XXXX XXXX is probably better than all 30 of these players, but the few that are most similar have been selling for around $ 1 800 000 to $ 7 250 000.


Range is such a joke, and the player is probably better than the other players that were sold in these values ...

:/

Last edited by Stratos at 9/29/2009 5:54:09 PM

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113510.40 in reply to 113510.38
Date: 9/29/2009 11:28:56 PM
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lol what the hell? not only is it possible, it's happening all the time.

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113510.41 in reply to 113510.40
Date: 9/30/2009 6:43:16 AM
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if it happens all the time, then it's their real value instead of a too high price. That's how a free market works.

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113510.42 in reply to 113510.39
Date: 9/30/2009 8:32:19 AM
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The key here, I think, is that he is a SF. It can take upward of 7 seasons to train a quality SF. Imagine if the guy who sold for 7.25 million had 6-7 tremendous skills, plus add a couple more in the prominent range. Then he is worth at least 7.25 million, probably even more.

Now, imagine the guy with just tremendous jump shot and atrocious-inept in everything else. There is your 1.8 million guy (maybe even less).

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113510.43 in reply to 113510.42
Date: 9/30/2009 8:46:28 AM
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The prices have gone up sure, but right now I am seeing no quality out there at all. These players are a joke. I am simply going to wait it out and not reward an owner who...

a.) didn't train his player efficiently and...

b.) has overpriced his player.

I look at it as conditional learning. He'll just do the same thing again if he's rewarded. And I don't want to see shoddily trained, overpriced players peppering the market. A market I use to enjoy spending hours on.

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113510.44 in reply to 113510.43
Date: 9/30/2009 8:58:22 AM
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The prices have gone up sure,


I can't argue that the prices have gone up. I was simply pointing out the reason for a large varation in transfer price compare. I saw a SF with tremendous JS with a bid of 8 million on him and it seemed to me he was worth every penny.

As for your point about the quality of player, I have to disagree with you there. There are quality players on the market, you just have to be willing to pay for them.

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113510.46 in reply to 113510.45
Date: 9/30/2009 11:00:49 AM
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I've been looking for a NT level guard for the past couple weeks and there hasn't been too many options.


I've been looking every day for a guard, maybe not at the NT level but pretty high up there. The issue for me is not the lack of options (I see about 6 that I would take at the moment). The issue for me is that I can't afford them.

I'd argue that the amount of top quality players on the market has been lower as of late.


In terms of NT guys, the issue is probably different than what you are thinking. Having an NT player on your team is now much more valuable. It is one reason why I would probably not sell Wendon - well at least until he no longer can play for the NT.

For non-NT types, the only change there is the elimination of free agents.

I'd argue that the reasoning behind this is that the inflated market is scaring many managers away from placing their top guys on the TL.


I kind of doubt this as the BBs have said they will not let inflation get out of control. My impression is that they are waiting to see if prices will stabilize once we can no longer change arena prices every day. If not, I'm guessing we will see free agents on the market again, or some other type of price stabilization.

If you're looking to sell, now is the best time to get the highest price, in my opinion.

Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 9/30/2009 11:04:16 AM

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