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theoretically, SF's height doesnt really matter in training because the bumps in one type of skillls will offset the drag in the other set of skills. but yea the atrocious FT and SB is a deal breaker for me in any trainee.

If you're training inside skills, and the trainee is only 6'3", it definitely makes a huge difference. The training speed will be quite slow and pops won't be very frequent. That's why I recommended concentrating on the quicker to train guard skills instead.

As for having atrocious shotblocking as a guard trainee, I personally wouldn't let it influence my decision at all. I think it's the least important category of them all and even less important for a non-big man. Plus having both his IS and ID already at level 6 for an 18 year old is a great advantage for a guard prospect. Atrocious FT shooting obviously isn't ideal but it trains so quickly that he could still have it up to level 3/4 in a few years without concentrating on it and just training it randomly.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 4/23/2012 2:37:54 PM

Thats why i want to make him a SF or inside oriented guard. I wouldn't want to waste those nice ID and IS. I just need IS and ID to get to prominent to be VERY effective.

P.S. free throw and shot blocking is not important.

Honestly, if it were the beginning of the season he would be a borderline trainee for me.

personally, FT is important because a good vs bad free throw team could mean the difference of 5 points per game and alot of the time, those 5 points is the difference between a win and a loss.

For a SF trainee, the bumps in guard skills due to the short height will offset the slow down of big man skills due to shortness, and vice versa for a tall trainee. This is why height isnt really important for training balanced SFs as the speed will balance out in the end, I cant explain it any clearer...

Now whether SB is important or not is subjective, but I firmly believe that they made the skill for a reason and that the majority of the top teams in any division have higher than averagein blocks (compared to its league) means something.

Last edited by Bauss at 4/23/2012 6:46:17 PM

personally, FT is important because a good vs bad free throw team could mean the difference of 5 points per game and alot of the time, those 5 points is the difference between a win and a loss.

Personally, I think that's the wrong way to look at it. Right now i'm the 3rd worst FT% team in my league and I'm 18-1. Why? Because I put emphasis on far more important attributes.

I think FT's are grossly overrated when compared to all the other cats. In fact, for this particular trainee, I think FT and SB are by far the 2 least important of the 12.

Coach Coach, just because you've had two of the best trainees in all of BB the past 3-4 years doesn't mean anybody with less starting skill sucks! ;)

I think once you're in Div II or Naismith, if you're planning to train a player and keep them (and not just flip them), you should be able to envision them contributing significantly to your team. That player's skills right now would be right around the absolute minimum total skill count I would consider starting to train if it were the beginning of the season. Sometimes I think you can start with lower overall skills if 1)the player has high potential and is worth the effort, 2) you've drafted the player so you'll derive a merchandise bonus from him, or, 3) the skills he is weak in are ones which will train quickly because of his size. This guy has holes on his inside game (assuming he's going to be a SF) which will train quite slowly because of his guard height.

Personally, I think that's the wrong way to look at it. Right now i'm the 3rd worst FT% team in my league and I'm 18-1. Why? Because I put emphasis on far more important attributes.

I think that says more about your league than it does about you. jks =]

You made my point. If you start with a trainee that has decent FT (lets say average and up), then you can worry about the far more important attributes and not worry about training FT. And Let's be honest, it's not that hard to find a trainee with superstar potential+ and no holes in starting skills for less than 500k.

You make a good point (probably about II.4 too ;) ), I just wouldn't let low FT be a deal breaker for me. But that's just my personally preference.

If I was planning to keep this player after I train him, I'd be far more concerned if he had atrocious stamina. But that's because I put an emphasis on that.

Margus Tammik (24211131) Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 643
Role: backup
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DMI: 31900
Age: 18
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: strong ↑ Jump Range: inept
Outside Def.: atrocious Handling: awful
Driving: inept Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: average Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: atrocious

This is my primary trainee and i plan on training one on one for the rest of this season and then focus on his od and passing for half of next season and inside for the rest.

This is my secondary trainee:

Paul Morgan (20746826) Center
Weekly salary: $ 11 642
Role: backup
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DMI: 160100
Age: 20
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: inept Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: inept Handling: inept ↑
Driving: inept Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: prominent Inside Def.: prominent
Rebounding: prolific Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: inept Free Throw: pitiful

Experience: atrocious