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216410.36 in reply to 216410.35
Date: 5/17/2012 7:26:02 AM
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Hey Koop I am fairly certain he is talking about you!

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216410.37 in reply to 216410.35
Date: 5/17/2012 7:52:43 AM
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Haha

I actually reckon its gotten harder for teams to rent a team for the playoffs and actually win it all. Firstly they sacrifice HCA, which as we all know, is huge. And second, alot of teams now have good wage efficient players, which aren't that far behind the 300K wage monsters (for example, from my team Manfrotto has more total skill points than a Radford, they are just allocated differently).

5 or 6 seasons ago the 300K wage players were still cheap, and probably a good recipe for short term playoff success. I'm not so sure that is the case now.

From: C-Cat

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216410.38 in reply to 216410.37
Date: 5/17/2012 8:09:13 AM
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Its a total different ball game now.

Us old timers remember when there was actually a transfer market it was pointless tanking, you had to train and develop your team over time to be successful. You couldn't tank for a season and raise enough money to buy a championship team. Back then you tanked and you would have only raised enough money to fund half of a 40k C purchase...

Alright I'm gonna go back to my chair can someone bring me my slippers?

From: mllama

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216410.39 in reply to 216410.38
Date: 5/17/2012 8:12:17 AM
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Would you like your pipe as well?

From: C-Cat

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216410.40 in reply to 216410.39
Date: 5/17/2012 8:13:51 AM
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What? You'll have to speak up i don't have my listening ears in....

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216410.41 in reply to 216410.37
Date: 5/17/2012 8:54:13 AM
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Actually I wasn't really thinking about playoffs (even though I wrote 'playoffs')but rather the relegation series. The Big 8 has always been tough with very little difference between 4th and 7th. When the market is this way, you can get the jump on those teams that have fought all season for that 4th ro 5th spot only to find themselves in a relegation series.

HC is big but Koop still may have won had Radford (even with less skill points probably would have owned The Manfro :P) not gone down so it still applies to playoffs.

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216410.42 in reply to 216410.41
Date: 5/17/2012 8:57:49 AM
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Probably but Arc owned Manfro anyway ;)

Agree that it is more of a concern for the relegation series, but I think that's probably got a bit to do with the amount of bots we seem to be having in the ABBL lately - normally you tank for most of the season and you get autorelegated

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216410.43 in reply to 216410.42
Date: 5/17/2012 9:03:11 AM
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Getting to ABBL is already difficult enough. Just the thought of surviving have made many given up! :p

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216410.44 in reply to 216410.43
Date: 5/17/2012 9:30:59 AM
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Easier for a first time promotee to survive in the ABBL now that what it was 3 seasons ago.



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216410.45 in reply to 216410.44
Date: 5/17/2012 6:57:31 PM
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Yeah it was a nightmare when i came up. Also finish 5th was a disaster back then financially but it was a sacrifice i was willing to make in year 1 to stay up.

I was spending 2 million plus on mono skilled 100k bigs back then. Admittedly training guys to sell was more rewarding financially as well but i remember how crazy the promotion jump was. I basically took 4 me seasons in Div 2 to get my team together so that i had enough guys tained up to promote and i also had nearly 2 mil in the bank. That along with my promotion money bought me 1 x 100k C. I rolled him out with a well rounded 50k PF and the guards i was training and hung in there for a 5th place finish.

Those were the days!


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216410.46 in reply to 216410.45
Date: 5/17/2012 10:18:52 PM
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Pfft, you had it easy, back when I first started in the ABBL, mono-skilled 10K bigs cost $3m... ;)

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