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ok ok, Kobe top 15, but teetering on him in the lineup? That's what I'm trying to say, maybe the reserve guy.

Mmk, I can understand that, I'd probably put him #3 in my SG discussion, behind Jordan/Gervin, Hondo's close too.

And my current one with no Elgin :(

PG: Walt Frazier
SG: George Gervin
SF: John Havlicek
PF: Elvin Hayes
C: Moses Malone

BPG: Gary Payton
BSG: Dwayne Wade
BSF: Rick Barry
BPF: Bob Pettit
BC: David Robinson

BG: Jason Kidd
BC: Willis Reed

Switched Payton and Kidd. I think they'd have a chance against any team.

PG: Frazier/Payton can hold any anybody from destroying us from the PG position, and none of the other PGs listed so far are good enough defenders to shut them down either.
SG: Not good enough defensively to stop the Jordan/Kobe combo, but I don't think either of them could stop George either, Wade maybe.
SF: Hondo will run em into the ground, defensively he's good enough to hold anybody, and Barry is the teams designated gunner.
PF: Gonna pound most PFs I've seen listed on the boards. Not as skilled offensively either, but solid defenders/rebounders.
C: Nobody is gonna out tough this pair, they'll hang with anybody.

Also adding my one where I can choose all players.

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Julius Erving
PF: Elvin Hayes
C: Bill Russell

BPG: Walt Frazier
BSG: Kobe Bryant
BSF: John Havlicek
BPF: Karl Malone
BC: Moses Malone

R1: Oscar Robertson
R2: Scottie Pippen

Basically I want this team to out tough people, and I think it'd do just that.

Last edited by Eminence Front at 7/16/2012 2:02:34 PM

Tough, I've already made the argument for Lebron. Go back and read through the thread.

I know, the performance is more valued than stats. But still, legend yet? maybe. Will he win 3+ championships? maybe, could he make the legends team? maybe. will he be a starter? no. I say a 6th Man on the legend team.

I know, the performance is more valued than stats. But still, legend yet? maybe. Will he win 3+ championships? maybe, could he make the legends team? maybe. will he be a starter? no. I say a 6th Man on the legend team.

No. Dude's quite legendary. Only thing can be knocked is his early-maturity levels, and locker room effect.

Key word there being "early"

Correction to your post.

#1 Kobe and Lebron are 2 players that are considered one of the greatest of all time.

#2 Kobe is one of the top 10 players ever( at 9 or at 10) and the 2nd best SG. Lebron is in the top 15 players of all time. And by the time they both end thier careers they will both move up. And if you wouldn't put them in who would you use to take thier place???

Last edited by #24CMAN at 7/16/2012 5:52:11 PM

top 10 actually

I have to say that if you think that 1. george gervin is better than kobe and 2. hondo is close u must be very stupid.

Wooo, didn't say better, we were talking 'legendness' and I'd say they are both right there. Along with Mr. Logo of course.

Here's my list of 'best' players. Max of 20 pts, 10 for offense, 8 for defense, 2 for intangibles. Not comparable across positions.

PGs
T-1. Magic Johnson- 17 (10/5/2)
Walt Frazier- 17 (8/8/1)
John Stockton- 17 (9/7/1)
Oscar Robertson- 17 (10/6/1)
5. Isiah Thomas- 16 (8/7/1)

SGs
1. Michael Jordan- 19 (10/7/2)
T-2. Kobe Bryant- 18 (10/7/1)
Jerry West- 18 (10/6/2)
4. John Havlicek- 17 (7/8/2)
T-5. George Gervin- 16 (10/5/1)
Dwayne Wade- 16 (9/6/1)
Clyde Drexler- 16 (8/7/1)

SFs
1. Larry Bird- 18 (10/6/2)
T-2. Lebron James- 17 (10/6/1)
Julius Erving- 17 (10/6/1)
4. Scottie Pippen- 16 (7/8/1)
T-5. Elgin Baylor- 15 (9/5/1)
Rick Barry- 15 (9/5/1)

PFs
T-1. Bob Pettit- 17 (10/6/1)
Elvin Hayes- 17 (9/7/1)
T-3. Tim Duncan- 16 (8/7/1)
Karl Malone- 16 (9/6/1)
Kevin Garnett- 16 (8/7/1)

Cs(shout out to Mikan- unrankable due to era)
T-1. Wilt Chamberlain- 19 (10/8/1)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar- 19 (10/7/2)
3. Bill Russell- 18 (8/8/2)
4. Hakeem Olajuwon- 17 (8/8/1)
T-5. David Robinson- 16 (8/7/1)
Moses Malone- 16 (8/7/1)

Last edited by Eminence Front at 7/16/2012 8:27:23 PM

Walt Frazier, Bob Petit, Dave DeBusschere, and elvin hayes don't belong on this list. And jerry west is a PG. List list is kinda ridiculous.

I could see Dave DeBusschere he's probably the iffiest one on the list, the others I think not. As far as West he's more of a combo guard and I listed him at SG.

Heck just for you I'll take off Dave.

Last edited by Eminence Front at 7/16/2012 8:15:26 PM