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@ air i dont agree with just hiring and firing player just for floor sake of floor salary. that is going to haunt you in the long run. Game shape is important .I have trianed it for 2 season. My players are not that high in salary but they are in pt per game and stats & skills.

When you hire and fire it's to save money for any manager not just someone who wants to save money on no floor salary. Whether you buy a 5k salary player or 15k salary player and win the bid for 1k, you just want to play him once and fire him after the game. It costs you just the 1k for the bid.

This is doing anything but "haunting" anyone in the long run.

Are you saying you're selecting "game shape" for your training over the last 2 years for your 1 10k player and the rest are all under 7k?

I can sell my pg for 150-250k$.. So game shape & proper training helps bring in money latter down the line for your team.

Training game shape over the long term is not adding value to the player whatsoever. However, the week you sell him, if he is on proficient GS, he will fetch more money.

A 1k$ player just to sit in is not good idea, just change your playing ways and etc. Thats save 1ks every time, i have a players that worth not much but skills are good and i can sell them for 50-100K or more respectly almost each and every one of them.

A 1k player to sit in is a good idea. He just wants to fill the roster while his injured players heal. What's the sense in buying a new 10k player for each injured player when his main goal is saving money? That will cost 10k per week salary, plus the winning bid price.

What players on your roster besides Kardan can you sell for anything close to 100K? Certainly not the lowest 6 players by salary on your team. And the useful 18-year old 4k player you do have, you're not even playing or training him.

If you want out of div V at some point, you need to start changing your ways.

to add on what Kumiko said

You've been training Game Shape and all but 2 or your players have horrific game shape

P.S It's Beener not Beemer

Last edited by Knowledge at 10/6/2012 12:32:07 PM

@ air i dont agree with just hiring and firing player just for floor sake of floor salary. that is going to haunt you in the long run. Game shape is important .I have trianed it for 2 season. My players are not that high in salary but they are in pt per game and stats & skills.

Thanks for the compliment but I'm confused on what you mean by 'that is going to haunt you in the long run?'

How exactly do you think hiring and firing players will haunt you?

to add on what Kumiko said

You've been training Game Shape and all but 2 or your players have horrific game shape

P.S It's Beener not Beemer

He's only been training on the weeks he set his training.

He wasting needed funds, training game shape is already coming out of the team salary. if he does that 4-5 times a season that 4-5k dollars. which may not seem like alot of money but it is for a small ball club when salaries are very low and things need to get built, the money could be better suited in his building. getting areal players to replace his players and build a better them .I had a 1ks player now he can sell for 150 k$ the max i could sell him for. which is going to help me in my step phase if i promote.

So i think it going to haunt him in the long run becuase he could be buying better players as well as building in the right fashion.. There is no quick way to success other than training and building.

Also Managing floor salary is very easy in the lower ranks, but when you wasteful spend its very hard to recover. I learned this myself. 7 & season and counting lol..

What your saying might be true, but what most people do is buy a player for $1000 to help manage gameshape that particular week and then cut the guy before they pay his salary on Monday. So the actual cost is quite low ($1000), even for lower divisions. Plus it doesn't have anything to do with floor salary because those players aren't on your roster when salaries are paid. And I think that most teams that do this would agree that is a very cheap way to help manage gameshape which is very important for success. And it's also the one thing that most managers screw up in this game.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 10/9/2012 2:23:44 PM

that a nic e long dialouge of opinion and insight.. I respect what your saying . But i can see my players ppg and how they have progressed over the seasons i have been playing. with game shape. I think game shape does equal money back in return.

i think a small ball club should be saving not just trying to fill a player slot for sake of floor salries becuase they should arleady be very simple to manage , unless they're reckless spending. he can find much better young player for 1k$ and then sell him for alot more than he paid at the end of the season.

So i do think in the end getting money back for the player and training game shape does equal masses revenue..

As far my uselful 18 yr old.. If you want to buy him just let me know.. I realy dont need him with my pg and sg and sf getting about 18 ppg( bench players as well) and while my team is averering 120 ppg.. How am i going to play him it not fiar to bot teams.. Buit in seriousness :) A new good player does not cost 10k you can find better for 1ks if your know your stuff. i sold a few very good player for cheap 1-3Ks and the bidder resold them for 120 or better, and they where/are good players.. :)

And i did train game shape with each and every one them as well as the 18 yrs your liking so much. so in the end me and bidder made/will make money . They made more after they resold than me but hey .. Im v division what do i know.."I ll get better though. :)

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 10/9/2012 2:36:47 PM

that a nic e long dialouge of opinion and insight.. I respect what your saying . But i can see my players ppg and how they have progressed over the seasons i have been playing. with game shape. I think game shape does equal money back in return.

Fine. Continue what you are thinking. But if you take a 5k player and only train game shape, you're not going to get much more money for the exact game 5k player just with some extra levels of game shape.

And if you are training game shape, you are doing a poor job of it.

Except for having terrible bad luck, there is no excuse for not having an 11-12 man roster and not being able to keep them at strong/proficient game shape without having to train game shape.

As far my uselful 18 yr old.. If you want to buy him just let me know.. I realy dont need him with my pg and sg and sf getting about 18 ppg( bench players as well) and while my team is averering 120 ppg.. How am i going to play him it not fiar to bot teams.. Buit in seriousness A new good player does not cost 10k you can find better for 1ks if your know your stuff. i sold a few very good player for cheap 1-3Ks and the bidder resold them for 120 or better, and they where/are good players..

I have no use for your 18 year old which you haven't trained for half a season.

You are averaging 120 ppg because you are playing against bots. Hell, even bots score that many points against each other. This is why some leagues have bots as scoring leaders or having league records. Facing human opponents you will be crushed.

I found a good 1k player this week to manage my team's game shape. He had 7 OD, 7 ID, 6 JS and had 9 GS. He played well for me in the one game and is now enjoying retirement. Please find someone better for 1k that you buy, keep for a season, and sell for more money.

And i did train game shape with each and every one them as well as the 18 yrs your liking so much. so in the end me and bidder made/will make money . They made more after they resold than me but hey .. Im v division what do i know.."I ll get better though.

If you sell a 1k player for 3k and that bidder resells for 120k or better as you say, then why the hell aren't YOU selling for 120k? Don't you ask yourself this? They aren't training game shape!

Agreed.

Ty. But like you said. Everyone plays differ. If ones want to cheat the salary cap. Hey more power to them. I dont think its the right way to play. Which is the point im making.

And to be straight im from the bottom. Im just building Arena in the lower league.