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239321.36 in reply to 239321.35
Date: 4/1/2013 5:12:15 PM
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I'd also like to throw out, what does, how many teams can predict to make the finals, or win the championship, have to do with Kobe, LeBron, or Darko is better?

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Date: 4/4/2013 5:35:53 PM
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Kobe in his prime would destroy anyone, and even give MJ a run when MJ was in his prime.
81 on the Raptors to bring them back and win,
And outscoring the Mavericks in 3 quarters with 62.

Also, in that Raptors game, he really only shot 46 times, 28-46(61%) and 7-13(54%) from downtown, not to mention the 18-20(90%) at the Free Throw line, he even managed 2 assists, which doesn't seem like much, but when you score 81! He also had 3 steals and a block.

In that Mavericks game, Kobe went 18-31(58%) 4-10(40%) from 3 22-25 Free Throws(88%) 8 Rebounds, and 3 Steals in 33 Minutes..

Not to mention, he scored 50 points in four consecutive games...

Now you ask, how is this relevant?

Did Lebron do any of that?

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Date: 4/4/2013 5:47:46 PM
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If Lebron had 40+ shots against the Raptors (that Raptor team, current Raptor team, or almost any Raptor team) he would score a good bundle of points for sure. But what's the point? A win is a win.

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239321.39 in reply to 239321.38
Date: 4/4/2013 5:53:32 PM
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Exactly, if a win is a win why are we comparing these two?

5 Rings to 1 Ring. 6 Rings to 5 Rings.

MJ > Kobe > Lebron.

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Date: 4/4/2013 6:41:50 PM
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5 Rings to 1 Ring. 6 Rings to 5 Rings.

MJ > Kobe > Lebron.


I'll just say this: Kobe had Shaq and others around him to help him win his championship. When Lebron was in Cleveland, he didn't have the team around him that could win a championship. Not necessarily saying that Kobe is better, but I'm not saying he isn't either.

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239321.41 in reply to 239321.40
Date: 4/4/2013 6:55:58 PM
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Very true. But neither Jordan or Kobe ever had as much talent around them as Lebron does at Miami now. I mean, them not winning (or at least getting to the finals) every championship until some sort of power shift means they've underperformed badly in the postseason. It's pretty ridiculous what he has now.

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239321.42 in reply to 239321.39
Date: 4/4/2013 7:23:20 PM
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Exactly, if a win is a win why are we comparing these two?

5 Rings to 1 Ring. 6 Rings to 5 Rings.

MJ > Kobe > Lebron.


Hondo Havlicek > Robert Horry > MJ. Though in this case it's Bill Russell's world and everyone else can suck it.

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Date: 4/4/2013 7:52:59 PM
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Exactly, if a win is a win why are we comparing these two?

5 Rings to 1 Ring. 6 Rings to 5 Rings.

MJ > Kobe > Lebron.


Hondo Havlicek > Robert Horry > MJ. Though in this case it's Bill Russell's world and everyone else can suck it.

The +1 is from me, as not many people remember my "uncle" John anymore.

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239321.44 in reply to 239321.41
Date: 4/4/2013 8:01:19 PM
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Very true. But neither Jordan or Kobe ever had as much talent around them as Lebron does at Miami now. I mean, them not winning (or at least getting to the finals) every championship until some sort of power shift means they've underperformed badly in the postseason. It's pretty ridiculous what he has now.


Who balled this?

This is absolutely ridiculous. Both Jordan and Kobe, had the 2nd best player in the league on their team, at the time. In Kobe's case, he WAS the 2nd best player. sheesh. You guys just love rewriting history. Jordan's team was awesome, that even when he went on his hiatus, they still won 55 games, without him. Yeah the NBA must have been really soft those years, if you could remove Jordan from a team, and they still win 55 games.

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239321.45 in reply to 239321.44
Date: 4/4/2013 9:13:29 PM
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Jordan maybe(Pippen is tough to judge), but Kobe most certainly did not have the 2nd best player in the league for his last two(especially since most would agree Lebron was the best player in the league at the time).

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239321.46 in reply to 239321.45
Date: 4/4/2013 9:48:10 PM
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Since this argument is ridiculous and i'm losing my cup game i'm gonna prove why lebron is the superior player now.

offensive stats:

kobe: per/23 ts:57% eff:25.35 +/- : 1.9

lebron james: per/31 ts: 63% eff: 32.15 +/-: 8


ps: i won't even get into defensive metrics, i dislike kobe, but i don't hate the guy

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