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240497.36 in reply to 240497.35
Date: 4/14/2013 4:37:52 PM
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The 8% is not at all based on the prior skill level of the player, though, so it wouldn't be compounded.


Ah right, I see where that came from originally.
If a level 5 trainer adds 8% more skill points each year than the lvl 4 trainer, then it's not additive because the level 4 trainer is still adding the 'baseline' increase that the 8% is tacked onto along the way.
When I wrote my first post about the CAGR. I was referring to the increase over the original starting point of the player, not the comparison between the lvl 4 and lvl 5 trainer. Not exactly relevant now that I re-read the posts.

So, for the record: if the difference between the two is 8%, then having a Lvl 5 trainer will net you 8% more skill points than a Lvl 4 trainer would have, all else being equal, for one year or nine billion years.

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240497.37 in reply to 240497.34
Date: 4/14/2013 4:40:33 PM
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Thank you! This is what I was trying to say but stated it badly. You made it more clear. +1


I actually thought he was joking. Compounding interest has absolutely nothing to do with this situation. It's still only 8% my friend.

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Date: 4/14/2013 6:25:25 PM
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Dude im being sarcastic. I just have a good attitude when people make fun of me ;) I still don't understandhowthedifferent level percentages work though.

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240497.39 in reply to 240497.38
Date: 4/14/2013 6:36:28 PM
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Having looked at the stats I would never get anything other then a level 4 trainer. I always have one for less then 20k a week and have a current 21 NT player in his 2nd season in that side.
The difference is so small that the increase in cost seems a waste of money to me. But some want seem to feel its worth spending twice as much for the extra few pops over seasons of training.

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Date: 4/14/2013 8:26:58 PM
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I just want to add, that you don't actually get more. You get it faster. Potentials still cap at the same point, so you don't get a better player, you get a player to the peak slightly faster. Is speed worth it, should be the real question.

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Date: 4/14/2013 11:36:51 PM
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According to the training speed analysis data it shows these as effects of trainers level 4 to 7 for 18 to 25 year olds


Level 4 - 99.5
Level 5 - 100
Level 6 - 103.2
Level 7 108

All as a % of relative training.

So is these which are taken from 1,000s of weeks training are true then the difference of level 4 to 5 is almost impossible to see.



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240497.44 in reply to 240497.42
Date: 4/15/2013 4:09:29 AM
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I thought I read somewhere that the effectiveness is like the following:

Lvl 1: 50%
Lvl 2: 75%
Lvl 3: 87,5%
Lvl 4: 93,75%
Lvl 5: 96,875%
Lvl 6: 98,4375%
Lvl 7: 99,21875%

So an increase in half the difference with the previous level. I don't know if it's accurate though, maybe it's just a simplified version to make it easier to understand it.

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Date: 4/15/2013 8:10:02 AM
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If those results are right, advanced (4) is the way to go. I believe those numbers are too broad to really clarify the differences between levels of trainers though. They wouldn't take into account elastic effect, cross trainings or age.

Rumor is that higher level trainers are shown to be more efficient as the players age.

I managed to pick up a cheap 30k exceptional (6) for 100k, so ill upload some trainer 6 results for future comparison.

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