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262158.36 in reply to 262158.32
Date: 8/19/2014 7:07:55 PM
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In Europe, it's mostly transfer and/or changing club at the end of the contract.


Right. Since all sports leagues have contracts, many trades are made due to contract reasons. BB doesn't have contracts, so trades have to be for the reasons that managers currently sell players for in BB.

The first reason I can see for anyone to sell players in BB using the TL is for cost reasons. I get rid of player X because my team is going to lose money if I keep him. So, it's because I have to make room on my roster for a cheaper player. My idea addresses this since you can only trade for a player whose salary is less than the player you are selling. Because I also added a minimum salary of 75% (or whatever the BBs decide) of the selling manager's player, you are getting trades of players that are similar in cost. One gets a slightly better player, the other gets a slight worse player and some cash which helps their economy. Both teams benefit.

The second reason I can see for anyone to sell a player is because they trained a great player and want to make money off of that player. Under my proposal, they can still do that because the selling manager can put the player up without the option for trades. Then, it is cash only. If they put that player up with the option for trades, they could also accept a player that is similar in value and some cash. Or just look at the offers, reject them all, and still accept a boatload of cash. Either way, both teams benefit.

The last reason I can see for anyone to sell a player is to shake the team up and try something new. With my trade idea, they get offers from other players and can find something different that might get them further along in the idea they are working towards.

Here is an example of the last reason. Say a manager changes his team name to the Gotham Dark Knights. He only wants players who have the word "Dark" somewhere in their name. He can offer up his players on the TL with trades enable and in his advertisement say that he will only accept trades for players with "Dark" in their name. He is much more likely to be able to build the team he wants if he can trade for these players than he is if he has to use the TL to find the players, make bids, and buy them. He is also much more likely to get players that won't make his team much better or worse because he is getting back similar value in the trade for the players he is giving up. So, his team is still competitive and he gets the team he wants. Everyone benefits.

even a thought out idea can not work in BB


That could be true. If anyone actually addressed the points of my idea, I would agree. But, instead, I am being told that if I don't like the poor arguments that have been made against my proposal, I should "leave the game".

I don't come in here just to argue. I am curious if there is any support from any players in the game for a logical, thought out trade option. It seems like a lot of new players ask for it. I am also curious if the BB developers think it could work since it uses their excellent existing work as a jumping off point for a fun game improvement. Lastly, I am curious if their are any flaws in MY proposal, not the one's people seem to be making up in their heads.

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262158.38 in reply to 262158.35
Date: 8/19/2014 10:16:09 PM
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you have the right to insist your TRADE Concept, i also have the right to insist that i disagree with any kind of Trading, the Transfer market, no matter its imperfections is working just fine.


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262158.39 in reply to 262158.34
Date: 8/19/2014 10:34:22 PM
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no you are wrong, sorry you assume to know who I am and what I have and haven't done and you assume that your ideas will actually counter events that occur in a game that you ahve little experience in.
I have actually read all your responses, but you seem to missing the point that you ideas will not prevent cheating.

trading = cheating.

trading will always equal cheating, no matter how many different mechanisms you think you can put in place. The BB owners know this, no one is ever going to come up with a solution for it. No matter how many different posts or how many different arguments you come up with. It will never get implemented, whether you like what people are saying or not.

I don't actually like the current transfer system, I hate it because I am based in Australia, the time difference means I miss out bidding for players that I want, unless is tay up until 3am, so for me, the current system is annoying. But trading is not the answer.

Sorry you seem to be unable to accept this, but it is not me that has the problem here, im simply the messenger its up to you whether you choose to listen to more expwerienced people or not and accept this reality

Im not the decision maker on whether suggestions go forward, neither is the GM, but both of us have spent considerable time reading and responding to your answers, because we realise how much effort you put into it and

But fact is, trading has been suggested for this game from day one. and it will never, NEVER EVER EVER be implemented in the game. Not because I say so, not because a GM says so, but because there is no possible implementation that will NOT increase cheating. full stop, end of argument, bye bye now.

Your arguments are moot, because BB will never implement it. You can choose to listen to our understandings of why its not going to happen or not, thats your choice....... simply replying with your understanding of the logic of why it SHOULD happen, will not make it happen, regardless of the fact that you THINK that your logic will prevent events that you obviously do not understand ie; Cheating.

sorry, but thats just the reality. You will find yourself enjoying the game much more once you accept this reality.
For your own sanity i suggest doing a forum search for 'trading' and find how many times this has been suggested by people and this will give you ALLLLL the reasons in the world why it will never ever be implemented.

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262158.41 in reply to 262158.37
Date: 8/26/2014 5:28:37 PM
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What is also true is the fact that even after several proposition, this has not been added to the game which should answer your question about "what's the BBs are thinking of it".


Actually, it doesn't. I have yet to see any ideas as fleshed out as mine in the forums. I have been searching and searching. Is my idea good enough to be implemented? No idea. Is your response or Regan's or Abu's representative of what the BB's think? No idea. Maybe they'll actually read the proposal and we'll find out.

you are blindly rejecting their arguments


Not likely, since I quote every argument I reply to and explain my reasoning in detail.

abu wordings is harsh and shouldn't be used on the forum


Abu didn't say what I quoted. "Coach" Regan did.

you shouldn't hide behind "you are rejecting what I'm saying because I'm new and that's unfair".


Actually, I wasn't hiding behind anything. I never said what you quoted. I never mentioned that I was new or that my arguments were being rejected because I am new. "Coach" Regan brought up the fact of his experience and I pointed out that he has no experience with a BB system with trades.

This idea is rejected for other reasons who have been given.


And I explained why they were poor reasons and challenged everyone who has replied to actually comment on my idea, not the made up one in their head. You are the only person in this thread that has quoted any of my three original posts that contain the proposed trade idea and commented on the substance. The others just make up reasons why they think it won't work without even looking at what was proposed.