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327145.36 in reply to 327145.34
Date: 6/18/2025 4:01:33 PM
Locomotive Edinburgh
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
6262
So anything before Season 60 might as well be a different division as only BC Böðvar has been in the NoE II.2 division even that long (although KamiQazers, Flower of Scotland, Gibiskus, and Crv Jeep still exist in different divisions from that season), and there may well have been game engine changes in that time anyway.

I have only checked the teams since season 60 with winning records as those are most likely to have performed mega-blowout scores even against bots and there is only so much time even I will spend on stats. If anybody wants to check all the other teams and make me aware of any I have missed then feel free to let me know. We all know the best way to get the correct answer to something is be wrong on the internet!

Until anybody finds higher scores in league games in that period it looks like the highest score of each season since season 60 in II.2 are as follows:

Season 60 - BC Böðvar 148 vs Chisinau BC 56 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/124408274/boxscore.aspx)
Season 61 - Flower of Scotland 169 vs BC Fireball 36 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/125700409/boxscore.aspx)
Season 62 - Ljonin 160 vs Chapuraz 52 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/127000286/boxscore.aspx)
Season 63 - The Others 152 vs Hawkboys 79 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/128294762/boxscore.aspx)
Season 64 - Dropito 160 vs Comandaranga 88 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/129613170/boxscore.aspx)
Season 65 - Los Angeles Crackers 160 vs DHSM 39 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/130928051/boxscore.aspx)
Season 66 - Icelandia 163 vs Los Angeles Crackers 43 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/132241401/boxscore.aspx)
Season 67 - Locomotive Edinburgh 168 vs. Canoneers 39 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/133553552/boxscore.aspx) and Icelandia 168 vs Bibby Brotherhood 97 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/133553567/boxscore.aspx)
Season 68 - Raging Seagull 181 vs Andorra Lock 65 (https://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/134870075/boxscore.aspx)

In short, not only does this seem to be a record for a league game in Division II.2 in recent seasons, it doesn't even seem to be that close with the next best scores being 12, 13 & 13 points off.

P.S Apologies for the edits, formatting was wonky!


Last edited by StrategicHamlets at 6/18/2025 4:09:40 PM

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327145.37 in reply to 327145.36
Date: 6/18/2025 5:17:54 PM
Glasgow Blue Jays
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
3131
Second Team:
Colorado Rattlers
That is very impressive research, great stuff as always SH

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327145.38 in reply to 327145.36
Date: 6/20/2025 9:21:40 PM
Raging Seagull
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
11
Glad to have set this record in this tough division :)
Thanks again SH for your research and your posts which keep this forum alive
And well done to everyone for the season, and maybe see you next season depending on how our league is rebalanced

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327145.39 in reply to 327145.38
Date: 6/21/2025 3:20:39 PM
Glasgow Blue Jays
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
3131
Second Team:
Colorado Rattlers
Good luck to everyone who made the playoffs. The Big 8 went right to the wire as expected.

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327145.40 in reply to 327145.33
Date: 6/21/2025 4:01:32 PM
Locomotive Edinburgh
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
6262
Game 22 Game Ratings :-

170 - 14.6 - Skytturnar
149 - 15.7 - Celestia BC
146 - 16.0 - Glasgow Blue Jays
143 - 15.0 - BC Böðvar
141 - 14.0 - Revolta Culé, B.C
141 - 13.3 - Glasgow Raptors
121 - 11.8 - The Others
118 - 11.0 - Chicago Bulbs II
107 - 11.8 - Locomotive Edinburgh
107 - 10.2 - Raging Seagull
102 - 10.8 - Bibby Brotherhood
093 - 07.9 - Yerevan
088 - 07.8 - Apex Legends
068 - 06.3 - Comandaranga
046 - 05.8 - Ciocan Lakers
027 - 02.4 - Andorra Lock *BOT*

Best team stats of the evening

Points : 151 : Locomotive Edinburgh
Rebounds : 75 : Locomotive Edinburgh
Assists : 51 : Locomotive Edinburgh
Steals : 24 : Locomotive Edinburgh
Block Shots : 16 : Locomotive Edinburgh

Best individual stats of the evening

Points : 46 : B. Waters (TheOthers)
Rebounds : 20 : J. Zimmer (Apex Legends)
Assists : 13 : K. Khokhlov (Yerevan)
Steals : 6 : W. Buchan (Locomotive Edinburgh)
Block Shots : 4 : S. MacAlduie (Locomotive Edinburgh), H. Soodla (Bibby Brotherhood)

Best efficiency by main position of the evening

Point Guard : K. Khokhlov (Yerevan) (33 Points, 3 Rebounds, 13 Assists, 0 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 41
Shooting Guard : M. Purice (Ciocan Lakers) (31 Points, 19 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 0 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 28
Small Forward : B. Waters (TheOthers) (46 Points, 12 Rebounds, 5 Assists, 1 Steals, 2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 44
Power Forward : G. MacCalmont (Locomotive Edinburgh) (20 Points, 15 Rebounds, 8 Assists, 2 Steals, 0 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 35
Center : W. Buchan (Locomotive Edinburgh) (26 Points, 15 Rebounds, 7 Assists, 6 Steals, 3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 54

Best team stats of the season

Points : 2847 : Glasgow Raptors
Rebounds : 1390 : Glasgow Raptors
Assists : 736 : Glasgow Raptors
Steals : 175 : TheOthers
Block Shots : 215 : Locomotive Edinburgh

Best individual stats of the season

Points : 62 : K. Tavityan (Yerevan)
Rebounds : 25 : B. Dayende (Skytturnar), D. Ovagemyan (TheOthers), A. Herrington (TheOthers)
Assists : 23 : C. Kazazyan (Yerevan)
Steals : 6 : S. O'Connor (Glasgow Blue Jays), V. Autried (Celestia BC), H. Svavarsson (BC Böðvar), J. van Adelsbergen (chicago bulbs II), A. Moyà (Comandaranga), W. Buchan (Locomotive Edinburgh), Z. Bohchalyan (Yerevan)
Block Shots : 7 : O. Samúelsson (Skytturnar), C. Ke Yang (Celestia BC), H. Taylor (Locomotive Edinburgh)

Best efficiency by main position of the season

Point Guard : J. Varletta (Glasgow Blue Jays) (20.8 Points, 2.4 Rebounds, 7.7 Assists, 0.9 Steals, 0.3 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 23.9
Shooting Guard : S. MacNuir (Glasgow Raptors) (19.8 Points, 4.3 Rebounds, 4.1 Assists, 0.7 Steals, 1.1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 23.7
Small Forward : B. Neil (Glasgow Raptors) (14.7 Points, 9 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 1 Steals, 1.1 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 23.6
Power Forward : H. Svavarsson (BC Böðvar) (23 Points, 7 Rebounds, 5.6 Assists, 1.6 Steals, 0.2 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 28
Center : W. Buchan (Locomotive Edinburgh) (19 Points, 12.8 Rebounds, 1.9 Assists, 1 Steals, 1.8 Block Shots) : Efficiency : 27.8


Last edited by StrategicHamlets at 6/21/2025 6:03:43 PM

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327145.41 in reply to 327145.40
Date: 6/21/2025 5:58:42 PM
Locomotive Edinburgh
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
6262
End of season active team rating averages comparison :-

Notes:

Where ties apply, I have tried to list higher division teams 1st (so ESL over II over III), then by most wins.

6 spaces available in Division II for next season currently and 6 active teams in Division III so it looks like for a 2nd straight season everybody will be auto-promoted.

#1 - 15.4 - ESL - Smoki Wawelskie
#2 - 14.0 - ESL - C.B. Nans
#3 - 13.9 - ESL - BC Dondel
#4 - 13.7 - ESL - Wazowski Avengers
#5 - 13.6 - ESL - Icelandia
#6 - 13.5 - ESL - KamiQazers Team
#6 - 13.5 - ESL - Gibuskus
#8 - 13.0 - II.3 - Team Scooby
#9 - 12.9 - ESL - The Mighty Pheasants
#10 -12.8 - II.3 - Fighting Cats
#11 -12.6 - II.2 - Glasgow Blue Jays
#12 - 12.4 - ESL - KOTAYK
#13 - 12.3 - II.4 - Fimbles
#13 - 12.3 - ESL - Illyrians
#15 - 12.1 - ESL - KB Peja
#16 - 12.0 - II.2 - BC Böðvar
#16 - 12.0 - II.2 - Glasgow Raptors
#16 - 12.0 - II.3 - Barcelona Chisinau
#19 - 11.9 - ESL - Stomas
#20 - 11.8 - II.1 - Devstry
#21 - 11.7 - ESL - Dropito
#21 - 11.7 - II.3 - Cythreuliaid Conwy
#23 - 11.6 - II.2 - Skytturnar
#23 - 11.6 - II.2 - Celestia BC
#23 - 11.6 - II.2 - Revolta Culé, B.C
#26 - 11.5 - II.3 - Blindhead
#27 - 11.0 - II.1 - Dacia Chisinau BC
#27 - 11.0 - II.1 - The Red Hammers
#27 - 11.0 - II.1 - Malta Pissedons
#27 - 11.0 - II.2 - The Others
#31 - 10.8 - II.1 - Bardagakappi
#31 - 10.8 - II.3 - Santa Booker
#33 - 10.7 - II.3 - Ljónin
#34 - 10.5 - ESL - Albanian Lions
#34 - 10.5 - ESL - Minas Morgul
#36 - 10.3 - II.3 - Duncan Donuts 2.0
#37 - 10.2 - ESL - Flower of Scotland
#37 - 10.2 - II.1 - Ucigasii
#39 - 10.1 - II.1 - Virtus Floriana
#39 - 10.1 - II.3 - The Brick Squad
#39 - 10.1 - II.1 - Barcelona Dragons
#42 - 10.0 - II.2 - Raging Seagull
#42 - 10.0 - II.3 - The Dabberz
#44 - 09.9 - II.4 - Mackattack
#44 - 09.9 - II.3 - Comino Chameleons
#46 - 09.7 - II.1 - Victoria Killers
#47 - 09.6 - II.4 - Breiðholt SubSonics
#48 - 09.4 - II.3 - Sporting Club vikingur
#48 - 09.4 - II.1 - Olympique Balti
#50 - 09.2 - II.2 - Locomotive Edinburgh
#51 - 09.1 - II.2 - Bibby Brotherhood
#52 - 09.0 - II.4 - Cleveland Sparta
#52 - 09.0 - II.3 - Hawkboys
#54 - 09.0 - II.2 - Apex Legends
#54 - 09.0 - II.1 - MT Andorra
#56 - 08.9 - II.4 - Valletta
#56 - 08.9 - II.2 - Chicago Bulbs II
#58 - 08.1 - II.4 - Inverness Cats
#58 - 08.1 - II.3 - Berzerkers Ball Club
#60 - 07.9 - II.1 - Vagarshapat
#61 - 07.8 - II.4 - Big Bunda
#62 - 07.6 - II.1 - Botanical Power
#63 - 07.0 - II.4 - Petrocub-Moldova
#64 - 06.9 - II.4 - Asociatia Firenze-Chisinau
#64 - 06.9 - II.1 - Rocalux
#66 - 06.7 - II.4 - Banana Tropical
#66 - 06.7 - II.4 - Minions DAL
#66 - 06.7 - III.16 - Hull Radom
#69 - 06.4 - II.4 - Lux
#70 - 06.0 - II.4 - Llegendes dAndorra
#71 - 05.8 - II.2 - Yerevan
#71 - 05.8 - IIi.16 - BBBall
#73 - 05.7 - II.2 - Comandaranga
#73 - 05.7 - II.3 - Pic pedrosa
#75 - 05.5 - II.2 - Ciocan Lakers
#76 - 05.1 - III.16 - Tinymanny
#77 - 04.6 - II.1 - Crv Jeep
#78 - 04.4 - III.16 - BBC Nitia
#79 - 04.3 - III.16 - Razs Legands
#80 - 04.2 - III.16 - Ziggs Blasters




Last edited by StrategicHamlets at 6/24/2025 2:45:10 PM

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327145.42 in reply to 327145.41
Date: 6/25/2025 7:17:50 PM
Locomotive Edinburgh
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
6262
WARNING - NERDIEST STATTIEST POST YET

So I have been reading this thread https://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr... and a statement caught my eye - "II.1 and II.2 are supposed to be stronger but Nations of Europe II.3 is the most competitive second division league in Europe".

I assume this manager meant in Nations of Europe as there are a bunch of big European nation division II conferences where the average player rating per game of the 8th place conference finisher is equal or better than ANY team in division II of the Nations of Europe.

Three examples (there may be more but this is enough to get the point across) :-

France II.2 where La Fusion in the Big 8 average 13.0 and are last with a 7-15 record (but also with +42 PD!) https://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/277/overview.aspx?sort....

C.B. Valdelcubo in Spain II.2's Big 8 averaging 13.2 and having a 6 win season for their trouble https://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/193/overview.aspx?sort....

This one is my personal favourite if probably not that of the manager involved, - KONTAK in Italy II.1 averaging 13.8 (more than any of the other 15 teams in his division and better than all but the 3 best ESL teams this season), and going 7-15 (he then sold his 3 highest wage players and I can't say I blame him!) http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/256/overview.aspx?sort....

But is II.3 the the most competitive second division league in Nations of Europe? Well by average player rating per game, my opinion is yes but it is close!

II.3 has the single highest rating (Team Scooby's 13.0), but II.2 has the two highest averages for teams that didn't qualify for the playoffs (Revolta Culé, B.C's 11.6 and The Others' 11.0 over II.3's Santa Booker (8th place in conference!) with a 10.8 and 10.7 for Ljónin.

Average the averages of the 8 play-off qualifiers and II.3 scores 11.2, II.2 scores 11.0 as does II.1 (a 0.1 total behind II.2) then II.4 is 8.9 which as a team would be good for 12th in II.1, =12th in II.2, and 14th in II.3!

Filter them by player rating divisional position (and ignoring playoff qualification) and it looks like this:

1st:

13.0 - II.3 - Team Scooby
12.6 - II.2 - Glasgow Blue Jays
12.3 - II.4 - Fimbles
11.8 - II.1 - Devstry

2nd:

12.8 - II.3 - Fighting Cats
12.0 - II.2 - BC Böðvar
11.0 - II.1 - Dacia Chisinau BC
09.9 - II.4 - Mackattack

3rd:

12.0 - II.2 - Glasgow Raptors

12.0 - II.3 - Barcelona Chisinau
11.0 - II.1 - The Red Hammers
09.6 - II.4 - Breiðholt SubSonics

4th:

11.7 - II.3 - Cythreuliaid Conwy
11.6 - II.2 - Skytturnar
11.0 - II.1 - Malta Pissedons
09.0 - II.4 - Cleveland Sparta

5th:

11.6 - II.2 - Celestia BC
11.5 - II.3 - Blindhead
10.8 - II.1 - Bardagakappi
08.9 - II.4 - Valletta

6th:

11.6 - II.2 - Revolta Culé, B.C
10.8 - II.3 - Santa Booker
10.2 - II.1 - Ucigasii
08.1 - II.4 - Inverness Cats

7th:

11.0 - II.2 - The Others
10.7 - II.3 - Ljónin
10.1 - II.1 - Virtus Floriana
07.8 - II.4 - Big Bunda

8th:

10.3 - II.3 - Duncan Donuts 2.0
10.1 - II.1 - Barcelona Dragons
10.0 - II.2 - Raging Seagull
07.0 - II.4 - Petrocub-Moldova

So by pure numbers, it reads like II.3 just over II.2, II.1 a smidge further back, and II.4 in danger of being lapped by the field.

Also the end of season active team rating averages comparison table in the last post is really for me to get an idea of where I might stand if I get moved to a different bit of division II or various other teams get moved here to II.2 (plus where I would need to be to even think of being ESL-ready). You may get the same benefit if you find yourself teleported elsewhere next season for balance purposes or get promoted!

Lastly, Revolta Culé, B.C scored 186 (another divisional scoring record) but unsure whether to count it as post-season AND against a 3 man team!




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327145.43 in reply to 327145.42
Date: 6/28/2025 2:36:10 PM
Glasgow Blue Jays
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
3131
Second Team:
Colorado Rattlers
We congratulate BC Bodvar. We fought right to the end but were comfortably beaten. Congratulations again.

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327145.44 in reply to 327145.43
Date: 6/28/2025 4:01:31 PM
BC Böðvar
ESL
Overall Posts Rated:
1818
Second Team:
BC Böðvar II
Thank you sir, it was a great game!


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327145.45 in reply to 327145.42
Date: 6/30/2025 1:23:17 PM
The Brick Squad
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
9999
Second Team:
Cement Factory
That was me with the statement

I meant ALL of Europe, I'm trying to put some respect to all of our names and efforts!!

I think we need to duke this out in a private league next season and get some premium bragging rights for our efforts in division II

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327145.46 in reply to 327145.45
Date: 7/5/2025 5:52:45 PM
Glasgow Blue Jays
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
3131
Second Team:
Colorado Rattlers
Glasgow Raptors put on a show in game 2 to force a Sunday decider. The game was never as close as the scoreline suggested. Good luck to you both in the match tomorrow where they are playing for all the marbles.

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