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239962.362 in reply to 239962.361
Date: 5/25/2013 5:01:59 AM
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Imagine how many div 3 and 4 Noobs would go bankrupt when they buy a player not understanding that they cant afford the salary of .


maybe initially, but just because they go bankrupt, doesnt mean they can't start another team. and being a noob means they lose nothing.

I think yer initially you would have a hit on new users, but in the end, if it was made clear to a user that - say as an example approaching the all-star deadline

"The Deadline for players in the playoff is ALl-star game - By buying this player you may have trouble selling him after the all-star game, which may put your team at financial jeapordy"

ok so badly worded i know - but you get the point.

In saygin all that, i think BB have been wise in ALL changes that they have made to the game, in that they need to do things gradually - sudden drastic changes would just alienate so many users, both new and old and consistent gradual changes are the best policy.

So yer... GS change this year - see how it works - if no impact, then maybe push out the playoff deadline by a week - see what happens. if nothing - push it out another week, until a happy medium is found.



+1 agree

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239962.363 in reply to 239962.360
Date: 5/25/2013 5:32:44 AM
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I don't really understand why they've gone with a hit to gameshape when there's other things that could be done to eliminate the problem completely, e.g. minimum eight week contracts,



Imagine how many div 3 and 4 Noobs would go bankrupt when they buy a player not understanding that they cant afford the salary of .



That's not a good enough reason to do nothing. New players will learn (and should read the rules) and like the great Coach said, there's nothing stopping them from starting again if they do go bankrupt.

A simple warning on the transfer/player sale page would be sufficient anyway.

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239962.364 in reply to 239962.363
Date: 5/25/2013 6:01:07 AM
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yup

but I think all-star week is too much :)

u happy to scrim over the playoffs and off-season matty?

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239962.365 in reply to 239962.364
Date: 5/25/2013 8:56:23 AM
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Yep, scrim away!

Oh, but you won't be able to CT me in a scrim...

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239962.366 in reply to 239962.365
Date: 5/25/2013 10:07:07 AM
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i wont be able to lose by 30 points when I CT you, whilst you TIE

is that what ur saying?

From: akuma

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239962.367 in reply to 239962.363
Date: 5/25/2013 12:27:03 PM
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I don't see why they can't do a simplified model based on the NBA.

1. Deadline for "trades" is all star week
2. Implement a "soft" salary cap, based on division. It is possible to go over the salary cap, but you will get hefty fines if you do. This is pretty much what happens in the NBA today.
3. Any player transferred to a team starts on the lowest gameshape. It should take a team several weeks to get the new players gs to proficient. This represents the time it will take for them to gel with your team.

Pretty easy to implement - not much needs to be done except a few configuration changes really, and some small code change for salary cap stuff.


From: Matt1986

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239962.368 in reply to 239962.367
Date: 5/25/2013 10:57:54 PM
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I think implementing all three would be overkill. If there's an earlier deadline for playoff rosters, there's no reason for Neely purchased players to suffer a gameshape hit. I can't see any benefit in that.

I don't think we need a salary cap. The problem is buying rent a beasts before playoffs, if a manager is prepared to lose money doing that then a soft salary cap won't make much difference. It would be much easier to either set the playoff roster deadline earlier, or introduce a minimum contract.

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239962.369 in reply to 239962.367
Date: 5/26/2013 2:43:49 AM
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In the NBA, there is a direct correlation between teams who are paying over the soft-cap and teams who make the playoffs.

obviously there are some exceptions, but in general, the higher the team payroll, the better the team is.

Top 10
Lakers
Nets
Magic
Heat
76's
New York
Portland
Boston
Chicago
Clippers

Bottom 10 payroll (lowest to highest)
Rockets
Kings
Bobcats
Suns
Bucks
Memphis
New Orleans
Utah
Indiana
Toronto

some obvious exclusions to the rule, but in general, if there was a soft cap, it wouldnt make a difference - all the teams with all the cash would just aobsorb the cost/tax would just buy a team better than everyone elses.

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239962.370 in reply to 239962.369
Date: 5/26/2013 3:50:19 AM
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i think the fines payed for going over salary cap gets distributed to all nba teams

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239962.371 in reply to 239962.370
Date: 5/26/2013 8:48:56 AM
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Sure - they get compensated - but that doesn't put Kobe in their lineup the following season.


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239962.372 in reply to 239962.371
Date: 5/26/2013 9:18:03 AM
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If you read up on the salary cap fines, they are absolutely INSANE. I think the lakers are going to have to pay something like $85 million in taxes in 2014 for a roster worth around $100 million. Certainly not something to sneeze at. This would make managers think twice before splurging on a huge roster of monsters.

I mean it's not a perfect solution, and matt you're probably right it would be overkill to implement all of it if the aim was purely to stop rentals. But I'm thinking of the bigger picture. I'm thinking of transitioning this game towards an even more realistic model representing some of the more interesting aspects of the NBA's CBA like luxury taxes, soft caps, etc which every NBA GM needs to think about.

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