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From: Mickyster

To: Mr J
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A number of these things were ideas I put forward in my NT election proposal. I'm thinking of running but also thinking if I would prefer to wait and try again for the NT role.

From: iwen
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The U21 is much harder than the NT gig, but far more rewarding.

I had teams of mentors set up but most people just floated away.

The mentoring had the most success when I micromanaged all trainees, but that was almost a few hours a week.

From: Kilrtom
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If Iwen's no longer running for the U21 role, I'll put my hand up for the U21 election.

Im currently training two 18yo HOFs with another on the way in this seasons draft. My teams in a rebuilding phase so I do have the time to do some work on improving the U21 team and prospects.

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From: whitewind

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I had teams of mentors set up but most people just floated away.



speaking of which, ive updated the 20yr old guards for comparison on the offsite forum, Iwen

From: MrGoodKat

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I see what your saying and I like the idea of having a specific PR manager, and there only role being keeping managers engaged in the NT.But I guess I was looking a but lower, by targeting managers before they got U21 prospects. From what I gather your model is focused of the managers who have U21 talent and developing talent for the NT's. My suggestion is developing better managers by mentoring them on how to run their team, not just get the best out off there U21 prospects.

Sure better development of U21 prospects is a residual effect of what I am proposing. Developing better managers will ultimately mean them in time developing greater U21 player whom they can keep in good GS because they have been taught how to by their mentor.

But I can also see how developing better managers is a residual effect of what you are proposing. That helping someone develop their U21 prospect you will teach them the valuable skills necessary to successfully manage their team. It is just that my focus is less on the U21 Impact and more on strengthening the Australian BB community with better managers at all levels.

Garrie Addison (18085302). The G-Adder striking blows since season 15
From: Leeroy

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Date: 5/26/2013 8:57:35 PM
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I have to disagree with your suggestion that the communal approach should be kept separate from the U21 stuff. Why should it? Yes, the Coach will have plenty to be thinking about as it is but that is why I suggest a hierarchal structure with specified roles and responsibilities

It's a bit hard to explain just how busy the U21 manager is until you actually get the gig. Most of the time I'd log on to 5+ bb-mails involving training questions, updates or people asking for advice. Chasing down managers for game shape issues, checking minutes on all the current U21 players and Directing managers on how you'd like their player trained for the remainder of the season.

It all builds up, so if this was to be implemented it would have to be either before or at the very start of someone starting the U21 gig. I think bainsy mentioned the mentoring system, which Dire, mllama and C-Cat were a part of. I believe it led to me staying in the game and got me to where I am today with my trainees and team. Basically everyone got their own thread on the offsite forum that only they (and their mentor) could access, so they could discuss tactics, training and basic training of the game without fear of embarrassment or leaked information.

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Date: 5/26/2013 9:09:02 PM
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The system was good on the offsite forum. But the problem was it is on the offsite forum, meaning that new users have to log onto 2 different sites. It would be much more convenient for new users if the mentoring was done on BB.

Garrie Addison (18085302). The G-Adder striking blows since season 15
From: Mundy

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Have to agree Bains. Not even just the new users. I read all the info on the national teams on BB but have never visited the off-site forum and don't have any intentions too. With the amount of time I spend on BB and BuzzerManager I don't really have the desire to visit a third site.

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Date: 5/26/2013 11:51:57 PM
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love the name change.

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Date: 5/27/2013 2:13:58 AM
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Its 4:15pm on a Monday afternoon. Shouldn't the Under 21s have a scrimmage tonight?

Nothing scheduled at the moment

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way 2 late now :(

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