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From: ZyZla

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Date: 4/11/2008 7:44:59 AM
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mmhh, BB-Charles himself asked (some posts ago) opinions about DT to the whole community.. and you say not to speak about that anymore...


No, I`m not... But as far as I see this it`s no new suggestions on this thread... Just excuses how bad it is...

And only one suggestion which I really liked was about that player would be able to change a team just 1-3 times per season...

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From: Iordanou

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Maybe the best solution will be a payment to a player if you will sell him very early (approx under 1 season).

Example:

You will buy my player Slavomil Pecenka at the beginning of the next season and if you want to sell him during a first month, you will pay him from a transfer fee 50 percent from the price.

Second month it will be a 30 percent

Third month 10 percent.

This will give you the option to sell him whenever you want - but you will pay him a cut if you will pack him back before he can settle in your club.

what do you think?

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/11/2008 8:21:10 AM

From: ZyZla

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nice one suggestion...

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Date: 4/11/2008 8:33:24 AM
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It sucks !

Last edited by Edju at 4/11/2008 8:35:33 AM

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Date: 4/11/2008 8:45:49 AM
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why?

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Date: 4/11/2008 9:15:01 AM
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Although I never supported daytrading, it should not be eliminated from the game. It's good how it is now I guess.

Daytraders keep the market alive, without them there will be a lot less transfers, which makes it harder to find the player you want. Prices will go up, since there are less players on the market.

It's just another tactic how to play the game.

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Date: 4/11/2008 9:34:53 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Who are you? Where is Mr. Patjebono? The real one I mean!

I agree we shoudn't eliminate completely the DT but I also agree with the proposal to make a stronger taxationif you wanna sell a player bought in the first month, 50% first week, 60% second week, 70% third week, 80% four week. It's easy to make skill trading but in case of ST at least you must train a player (leaving training to another one), in DT you've only to put a price and take the profit.

A little OT; I think as written some weeks ago that there are a lot of money available now, probably too much...

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Date: 4/11/2008 9:35:22 AM
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I understand that the transfer market is a very attractive with a daytraders... but play the game against them - it is just impossible, because of their's advantage. That is the main reason to fix that problem. If you want a glory, you have to understand a whole game - not just a transfer market.

The market will be barely dead without them - but you could see if you will train a player and put him there - you will FINALLY see his real price. Our transfer market is an auction and if there is any player if fact interesting - is normal that there will be the interest from the many club's owners...

..if you give them by this forced way a more "goods" to buy, the price will fall down, but in fact - the money will be earned by a daytraders and NOT by the club, which growed them and do not daytrade.

In other words - if you need a player, you have to train him or buy for his real price and everyone will be in the same situation like you...

There is a lot of "for" and "against" arguments according to DT - but if should be this game so real, unique and interesting that it seems now - we should to focus on support of a managers, which play this game like should be played and don't give the advantage to a legal cheaters which have just a plenty of a time and do nothing for a basketball

that's my opinion

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Date: 4/11/2008 9:45:54 AM
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I just think BB is too young to limit the daytrading even more. There aren't that much active teams yet, so the amount of players and the players listed on the TL is fairly low.

At some point when BB grows even more to lets say an average of 10.000 users online, then there will always be enough players listed and you will mostly see bidwars because there are more users who want to buy players. Then daytraders aren't needed anymore (imo), because there is a higher demand and a higher offer. The TL will be way more active then.

Now when traders will disappear there will be less players on the market, and since the community is relatively small this will hurt BB imo.


@ Ned. I realised how hard it is to buy decent players. When I look around on the TL and I want a PG with strong OD, PA and HD I only got 2 matches. What will happen if there will be even less players. If we completely stop traders now the market will be dead, since BB is just too small atm. Don't get me wrong, I'm still con-daytrading, but we need them now I think ;).

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Date: 4/11/2008 9:57:42 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Ned. I realised how hard it is to buy decent players


Sorry Patje, but it's hard ot buy decent players simply because there are a lot of people richer than you. The DTs don't create new players, they are speculating on the market. If I put a player for sale for 400k, there is a player that buys him and resell the same player at 600k. Without DTs probably the player will be not sell for 400k but I can put him again on the market at 350k. I've made some DT transfers, I never trained a player, bought and sold, I didn't create anything, only a profit for myself. Now with this money I can offer more $ then you on a "decent" player on the market, are you happy about this situation? ;) Of course this is just an example but if you see a good player and you've cash 1 million and a DT has 2 millions, I think that probably this player will be bought by the DT...

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From: ZyZla
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Date: 4/11/2008 10:09:40 AM
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just think twice before putting player on TL with low price for hope that more users will fight for him... Nothing else you need... cause if day-trader gets player for 100k who`s worth is 600k it`s your own fault... If you`re taking the risk by putting you player for much more lower price then he`s worth so be responsible for that....

That`s just my opinion...

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