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From: MrGoodKat

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I see what your saying and I like the idea of having a specific PR manager, and there only role being keeping managers engaged in the NT.But I guess I was looking a but lower, by targeting managers before they got U21 prospects. From what I gather your model is focused of the managers who have U21 talent and developing talent for the NT's. My suggestion is developing better managers by mentoring them on how to run their team, not just get the best out off there U21 prospects.

Sure better development of U21 prospects is a residual effect of what I am proposing. Developing better managers will ultimately mean them in time developing greater U21 player whom they can keep in good GS because they have been taught how to by their mentor.

But I can also see how developing better managers is a residual effect of what you are proposing. That helping someone develop their U21 prospect you will teach them the valuable skills necessary to successfully manage their team. It is just that my focus is less on the U21 Impact and more on strengthening the Australian BB community with better managers at all levels.

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From: Leeroy

To: Mr J
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I have to disagree with your suggestion that the communal approach should be kept separate from the U21 stuff. Why should it? Yes, the Coach will have plenty to be thinking about as it is but that is why I suggest a hierarchal structure with specified roles and responsibilities

It's a bit hard to explain just how busy the U21 manager is until you actually get the gig. Most of the time I'd log on to 5+ bb-mails involving training questions, updates or people asking for advice. Chasing down managers for game shape issues, checking minutes on all the current U21 players and Directing managers on how you'd like their player trained for the remainder of the season.

It all builds up, so if this was to be implemented it would have to be either before or at the very start of someone starting the U21 gig. I think bainsy mentioned the mentoring system, which Dire, mllama and C-Cat were a part of. I believe it led to me staying in the game and got me to where I am today with my trainees and team. Basically everyone got their own thread on the offsite forum that only they (and their mentor) could access, so they could discuss tactics, training and basic training of the game without fear of embarrassment or leaked information.

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The system was good on the offsite forum. But the problem was it is on the offsite forum, meaning that new users have to log onto 2 different sites. It would be much more convenient for new users if the mentoring was done on BB.

Garrie Addison (18085302). The G-Adder striking blows since season 15
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Have to agree Bains. Not even just the new users. I read all the info on the national teams on BB but have never visited the off-site forum and don't have any intentions too. With the amount of time I spend on BB and BuzzerManager I don't really have the desire to visit a third site.

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love the name change.

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Its 4:15pm on a Monday afternoon. Shouldn't the Under 21s have a scrimmage tonight?

Nothing scheduled at the moment

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way 2 late now :(

From: SN_13

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Link to the offsite forum? I've been playing for a solid amount of time now and I still don't know the offsite forum, maybe more awareness will help...

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wasnt there another Foenix_Suns?

why did u quit or were u the 1 that got kicked?

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got kicked :'(

From: Mr J

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My suggestion is developing better managers by mentoring them on how to run their team, not just get the best out off there U21 prospects.


Yes! This is a major part of my communal approach. Clearly I haven't been clear enough. As a very rough guide as to some of what I'm talking about here is some of what I have in mind if I decide to run and get the job:


Staffing:

Coach (1): The coach is responsible for the following:
1.Tactical choices for all games
2.Overseeing staff and their roles
3.Selection and exclusion of players for the team
4.Liaison with all staff

Assistant Coaches (2): An assistant coach is responsible for the following:
1.Assisting the Coach with tactical options prior to games
2.Assisting the Coach in all other matters

Mentors for 18, 19 and 20 year olds (3): Are responsible for:
1.Regular communications with managers, Australian and non-Australian, regarding their U21 players.
2.Creation of statements (in consultation with PR Manager) for Prospective Players and Current Players.
3.Providing managers of players with links to expected skills sets relevant for their player and age.
4.Providing managers of players with links to Experts for further advice.

Mentor for 21 year olds (3): Are additionally responsible for:
5.Providing advice/guidance for managers on how to prepare their players for NT selection.

Expert: Training (?): Will be responsible for:
a.Assisting managers in managing weekly minutes
b.Providing managers with training information regarding skills
c.Providing information on all things regarding training

Expert: Administration (?): Will be responsible for:
1.Providing managers with information regarding all things BB related other than U21 NT information.( For example, they may assist new managers with the use of the game manual, or provide managers with

Game Reviewers (?): Will be responsible for:
1.Reviewing games played and player performances.
2.Providing the community with a brief analysis of games for discussion.
3.Providing the Coaching staff with community responses regarding games to be considered for next game.

Public Relations Officer (?): Will be responsible for:
a.Providing the community with game results, player performances and brief analysis of games in a tongue-in-cheek tone with the sole purpose of engaging Aussie managers, providing them with some value for having U21 players.
b.Providing the community with upcoming games, the times they are played and possible rosters and roster changes.

Scouts (2): Will be responsible for:
1. Scouting up coming games (team tactics previously employed/player GS history etc)
2. Watching for players that are put onto TL to obtain skill sets etc


Now, this is---I must remind you---a basic draft of some of what I'm thinking. Obviously this 'structure' needs considerable input from a variety of managers to be highly effective...but that is why a communal approach to everything is beneficial to the organising of how we run the U21 NT into the future...

Last edited by Mr J at 5/27/2013 5:10:49 AM

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